From: Chris Snook <csnook@redhat.com>
To: Satyam Sharma <satyam.sharma@gmail.com>
Cc: "clameter@sgi.com" <clameter@sgi.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
akpm@linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [RFC 1/4] CONFIG_STABLE: Define it
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 07:50:30 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <46A0A186.4030908@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a781481a0707200440v48dcf70fv621aec863562880c@mail.gmail.com>
Satyam Sharma wrote:
> On 7/20/07, Chris Snook <csnook@redhat.com> wrote:
>> Satyam Sharma wrote:
>> > On 7/20/07, Chris Snook <csnook@redhat.com> wrote:
>> >> Satyam Sharma wrote:
>> >> > [ Just cleaning up my inbox, and stumbled across this thread ... ]
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On 5/31/07, clameter@sgi.com <clameter@sgi.com> wrote:
>> >> >> Introduce CONFIG_STABLE to control checks only useful for
>> development.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Signed-off-by: Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com>
>> >> >> [...]
>> >> >> menu "General setup"
>> >> >>
>> >> >> +config STABLE
>> >> >> + bool "Stable kernel"
>> >> >> + help
>> >> >> + If the kernel is configured to be a stable kernel then
>> >> various
>> >> >> + checks that are only of interest to kernel development
>> >> will be
>> >> >> + omitted.
>> >> >> +
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > "A programmer who uses assertions during testing and turns them off
>> >> > during production is like a sailor who wears a life vest while
>> drilling
>> >> > on shore and takes it off at sea."
>> >> > - Tony Hoare
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Probably you meant to turn off debug _output_ (and not _checks_)
>> >> > with this config option? But we already have CONFIG_FOO_DEBUG_BAR
>> >> > for those situations ...
>> >>
>> >> There are plenty of validation and debugging features in the kernel
>> >> that go WAY
>> >> beyond mere assertions, often imposing significant overhead
>> >> (particularly when
>> >> you scale up) or creating interfaces you'd never use unless you were
>> >> doing
>> >> kernel development work. You really do want these features completely
>> >> removed
>> >> from production kernels.
>> >
>> > As for entire such "development/debugging-related features", most (all,
>> > really)
>> > should anyway have their own config options.
>>
>> They do. With kconfig dependencies, we can ensure that those config
>> options are
>> off when CONFIG_STABLE is set. That way you only have to set one
>> option to
>> ensure that all these expensive checks are disabled.
>
> Oh, so you mean use this (the negation of this, actually) as a universal
> kconfig dependency of all other such development/debugging related stuff?
> Hmm, the name is quite misleading in that case.
There are many different ways you can use it. If I'm writing a configurable
feature, I could make it depend on !CONFIG_STABLE, or I could ifdef my code out
if CONFIG_STABLE is set, unless a more granular option is also set. The
maintainer of the code that uses the config option has a lot of flexibility, at
least until we start enforcing standards.
-- Chris
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-07-20 11:50 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-05-31 0:20 [RFC 0/4] CONFIG_STABLE to switch off development checks clameter
2007-05-31 0:20 ` [RFC 1/4] CONFIG_STABLE: Define it clameter
2007-05-31 0:35 ` young dave
2007-05-31 0:49 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-01 18:08 ` Dave Jones
2007-06-01 18:25 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-31 8:54 ` Stefan Richter
2007-05-31 9:03 ` David Miller, Stefan Richter
2007-05-31 9:03 ` Stefan Richter
2007-05-31 21:11 ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-31 21:14 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-31 21:30 ` Sam Ravnborg
2007-06-01 18:02 ` Dave Jones
2007-06-01 20:22 ` Sam Ravnborg
2007-06-01 20:30 ` Dave Jones
2007-06-01 20:55 ` Sam Ravnborg
2007-06-01 20:25 ` Sam Ravnborg
2007-07-20 10:41 ` Satyam Sharma
2007-07-20 11:09 ` Chris Snook
2007-07-20 11:27 ` Satyam Sharma
2007-07-20 11:34 ` Chris Snook
2007-07-20 11:40 ` Satyam Sharma
2007-07-20 11:50 ` Chris Snook [this message]
2007-07-20 16:48 ` Stefan Richter
2007-07-20 16:28 ` Stefan Richter
2007-07-20 16:36 ` Stefan Richter
2007-07-20 19:09 ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-05-31 0:20 ` [RFC 2/4] CONFIG_STABLE: Switch off kmalloc(0) tests in slab allocators clameter
2007-05-31 19:51 ` Zach Brown
2007-05-31 22:37 ` Andi Kleen
2007-05-31 0:20 ` [RFC 3/4] CONFIG_STABLE: Switch off SLUB banner clameter
2007-05-31 0:20 ` [RFC 4/4] CONFIG_STABLE: SLUB: Prefer object corruption over failure clameter
2007-06-01 14:55 ` [RFC 0/4] CONFIG_STABLE to switch off development checks Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-06-01 18:38 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-01 18:58 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-06-01 20:59 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-01 21:24 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-06-02 15:23 ` Dave Kleikamp
2007-06-02 16:28 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-06-04 1:03 ` Dave Kleikamp
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