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From: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
To: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 01 of 16] remove nr_scan_inactive/active
Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 16:57:20 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <46817DB0.80105@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070626203743.GG7059@v2.random>

Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 26, 2007 at 01:08:57PM -0400, Rik van Riel wrote:
>> Both the normal kernel and your kernel fall over once memory
>> pressure gets big enough, but they explode differently and
>> at different points.
> 
> Ok, at some point it's normal they start trashing. 

Yes, but I would hope that the system would be disk bound
at that time instead of CPU bound.

There was no swap IO going on yet, the system was just
wasting CPU time in the VM.

> Even if it may have a positive effect in practice, I still think the
> current racy behavior (randomly overstimating and randomly
> understimating the amount of work each task has to do depending of who
> adds and read the zone values first) isn't good.

Oh, I like your simplification of the code, too.

I was running the test to see if that patch could be
merged without any negative side effects, because I
would have liked to see it.

> Where exactly we get to the halting point (4300 vs 5105) isn't
> crucial, 

However, neither of the two seems to be IO bound
at that point...

> Hope the benchmark is repeatable.  This week
> I've been working on another project but I'll shortly try to install
> AIM and reproduce and see what happens by decreasing
> DEF_PRIORITY. Thanks for the testing!

Not only is the AIM7 test perfectly repeatable, it also
causes the VM to show some of the same behaviour that
customers are seeing in the field with large JVM workloads.

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  reply	other threads:[~2007-06-26 20:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-06-08 20:02 [PATCH 00 of 16] OOM related fixes Andrea Arcangeli
2007-06-08 20:02 ` [PATCH 01 of 16] remove nr_scan_inactive/active Andrea Arcangeli
2007-06-10 17:36   ` Rik van Riel
2007-06-10 18:17     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-06-11 14:58       ` Rik van Riel
2007-06-26 17:08       ` Rik van Riel
2007-06-26 17:55         ` Andrew Morton
2007-06-26 19:02           ` Rik van Riel
2007-06-28 22:44           ` Rik van Riel
2007-06-28 22:57             ` Andrew Morton
2007-06-28 23:04               ` Rik van Riel
2007-06-28 23:13                 ` Andrew Morton
2007-06-28 23:16                   ` Rik van Riel
2007-06-28 23:29                     ` Andrew Morton
2007-06-29  0:00                       ` Rik van Riel
2007-06-29  0:19                         ` Andrew Morton
2007-06-29  0:45                           ` Rik van Riel
2007-06-29  1:12                             ` Andrew Morton
2007-06-29  1:20                               ` Rik van Riel
2007-06-29  1:29                                 ` Andrew Morton
2007-06-28 23:25                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-06-29  0:12                     ` Andrew Morton
2007-06-29 13:38             ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-29 14:12               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-06-29 14:59                 ` Rik van Riel
2007-06-29 22:39                 ` "Noreclaim Infrastructure" [was Re: [PATCH 01 of 16] remove nr_scan_inactive/active] Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-29 22:42                 ` RFC "Noreclaim Infrastructure - patch 1/3 basic infrastructure" Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-29 22:44                 ` RFC "Noreclaim Infrastructure patch 2/3 - noreclaim statistics..." Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-29 22:49                 ` "Noreclaim - client patch 3/3 - treat pages w/ excessively references anon_vma as nonreclaimable" Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-26 20:37         ` [PATCH 01 of 16] remove nr_scan_inactive/active Andrea Arcangeli
2007-06-26 20:57           ` Rik van Riel [this message]
2007-06-26 22:21             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-06-08 20:03 ` [PATCH 02 of 16] avoid oom deadlock in nfs_create_request Andrea Arcangeli
2007-06-10 17:38   ` Rik van Riel
2007-06-10 18:27     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-06-08 20:03 ` [PATCH 03 of 16] prevent oom deadlocks during read/write operations Andrea Arcangeli
2007-06-08 20:03 ` [PATCH 04 of 16] serialize oom killer Andrea Arcangeli
2007-06-09  6:43   ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-06-09 15:27     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-06-08 20:03 ` [PATCH 05 of 16] avoid selecting already killed tasks Andrea Arcangeli
2007-06-08 20:03 ` [PATCH 06 of 16] reduce the probability of an OOM livelock Andrea Arcangeli
2007-06-08 20:03 ` [PATCH 07 of 16] balance_pgdat doesn't return the number of pages freed Andrea Arcangeli
2007-06-08 20:03 ` [PATCH 08 of 16] don't depend on PF_EXITING tasks to go away Andrea Arcangeli
2007-06-08 20:03 ` [PATCH 09 of 16] fallback killing more tasks if tif-memdie doesn't " Andrea Arcangeli
2007-06-08 21:57   ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-08 20:03 ` [PATCH 10 of 16] stop useless vm trashing while we wait the TIF_MEMDIE task to exit Andrea Arcangeli
2007-06-08 21:48   ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-09  1:59     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-06-09  3:01       ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-09 14:05         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-06-09 14:38           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-06-11 16:07             ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-11 16:50               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-06-11 16:57                 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-11 17:51                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-06-11 17:56                     ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-11 18:22                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-06-11 18:39                         ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-11 18:58                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-06-11 19:25                             ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-11 16:04           ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-08 20:03 ` [PATCH 11 of 16] the oom schedule timeout isn't needed with the VM_is_OOM logic Andrea Arcangeli
2007-06-08 20:03 ` [PATCH 12 of 16] show mem information only when a task is actually being killed Andrea Arcangeli
2007-06-08 20:03 ` [PATCH 13 of 16] simplify oom heuristics Andrea Arcangeli
2007-06-08 20:03 ` [PATCH 14 of 16] oom select should only take rss into account Andrea Arcangeli
2007-06-10 17:17   ` Rik van Riel
2007-06-10 17:30     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-06-08 20:03 ` [PATCH 15 of 16] limit reclaim if enough pages have been freed Andrea Arcangeli
2007-06-10 17:20   ` Rik van Riel
2007-06-10 17:32     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-06-10 17:52       ` Rik van Riel
2007-06-11 16:23         ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-11 16:57           ` Rik van Riel
2007-06-08 20:03 ` [PATCH 16 of 16] avoid some lock operation in vm fast path Andrea Arcangeli
2007-06-08 21:26 ` [PATCH 00 of 16] OOM related fixes William Lee Irwin III
2007-06-09 14:55   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-06-12  8:58     ` Petr Tesarik

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