From: "Konstantin Münning" <konstantin@muenning.com>
To: Willy Tarreau <w@1wt.eu>
Cc: Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@linux01.gwdg.de>,
linux-pcmcia@lists.infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-mm@kvack.org, "Robert P. J. Day" <rpjday@mindspring.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: pcmcia ioctl removal
Date: Tue, 01 May 2007 14:06:53 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <46372D5D.1090702@muenning.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070501110023.GY943@1wt.eu>
Willy Tarreau wrote:
> On Tue, May 01, 2007 at 12:12:36PM +0200, Jan Engelhardt wrote:
>> On May 1 2007 05:16, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
>>> on the other hand, the features removal file contains the following:
>>>
>>> ...
>>> What: PCMCIA control ioctl (needed for pcmcia-cs [cardmgr, cardctl])
>>> When: November 2005
>>> ...
>>>
>>> in other words, the PCMCIA ioctl feature *has* been listed as obsolete
>>> for quite some time, and is already a *year and a half* overdue for
>>> removal.
>>>
>>> in short, it's annoying to take the position that stuff can't be
>>> deleted without warning, then turn around and be reluctant to remove
>>> stuff for which *more than ample warning* has already been given.
>>> doing that just makes a joke of the features removal file, and makes
>>> you wonder what its purpose is in the first place.
>>>
>>> a little consistency would be nice here, don't you think?
>> I think this could raise their attention...
>>
>> init/Makefile
>> obj-y += obsolete.o
>>
>> init/obsolete.c:
>> static __init int obsolete_init(void)
>> {
>> printk("\e[1;31m""
>>
>> The following stuff is gonna get removed \e[5;37m SOON: \e[0m
>> - cardmgr
>> - foobar
>> - bweebol
>>
>> ");
>> schedule_timeout(3 * HZ);
>> return;
>> }
>>
>> static __exit void obsolete_exit(void) {}
>
> There's something I like here : the fact that all features are centralized
> and not hidden in the noise. Clearly we need some standard inside the kernel
> to manage obsolete code as well as we currently do by hand.
>
> Willy
What about something like the tainted flag which status can be displayed
easily? And even better when a list of the used obsolete features can
be displayed as well on request? This way you don't need to search the
logs. A standardized obsolete function like the one above could do all
the job.
Just my 2 cents.
--
Konstantin Munning
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Thread overview: 180+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-04-30 23:20 2.6.22 -mm merge plans Andrew Morton
2007-04-30 23:59 ` Bill Irwin
2007-05-01 0:09 ` nfsd/md patches " Neil Brown
2007-05-01 9:08 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-05-01 9:15 ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-01 9:21 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-05-01 9:52 ` Neil Brown
2007-05-01 10:15 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-05-01 14:34 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-05-01 0:54 ` MADV_FREE functionality Rik van Riel
2007-05-01 1:18 ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-01 1:23 ` Rik van Riel
2007-05-01 7:13 ` Jakub Jelinek
2007-05-01 1:23 ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-05-01 1:39 ` 2.6.22 -mm merge plans Stefan Richter
2007-05-01 2:30 ` 2.6.22 -mm merge plans (RE: input) Dmitry Torokhov
2007-05-01 8:11 ` 2.6.22 -mm merge plans -- pfn_valid_within Andy Whitcroft
2007-05-01 8:19 ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-01 8:44 ` 2.6.22 -mm merge plans -- vm bugfixes Nick Piggin
2007-05-01 8:54 ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-01 19:31 ` Hugh Dickins
2007-05-02 3:08 ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-02 9:15 ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-02 14:00 ` Hugh Dickins
2007-05-03 1:32 ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-03 10:37 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-05-03 12:56 ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-04 9:23 ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-04 9:43 ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-08 3:03 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-05-03 12:24 ` Hugh Dickins
2007-05-03 12:43 ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-03 12:58 ` Hugh Dickins
2007-05-03 13:08 ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-03 16:52 ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-04 4:16 ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-09 12:34 ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-09 14:28 ` Hugh Dickins
2007-05-09 14:45 ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-09 15:38 ` Hugh Dickins
2007-05-09 22:24 ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-01 8:46 ` pcmcia ioctl removal Christoph Hellwig
2007-05-01 8:56 ` Russell King
2007-05-01 8:57 ` Willy Tarreau
2007-05-01 9:08 ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-01 14:46 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-05-01 9:16 ` Robert P. J. Day
2007-05-01 9:44 ` Willy Tarreau
2007-05-01 10:16 ` Robert P. J. Day
2007-05-01 10:26 ` Gabriel C
2007-05-01 10:52 ` Willy Tarreau
2007-05-01 10:12 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-05-01 11:00 ` Willy Tarreau
2007-05-01 12:06 ` Konstantin Münning [this message]
2007-05-01 13:56 ` Rogan Dawes
2007-05-01 19:10 ` Russell King
2007-05-01 20:41 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-05-09 12:54 ` Pavel Machek
2007-05-09 13:00 ` Robert P. J. Day
2007-05-09 13:03 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-05-09 19:11 ` Romano Giannetti
2007-05-10 12:40 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-05-01 8:48 ` pci hotplug patches Christoph Hellwig
2007-05-02 3:57 ` Greg KH
2007-05-13 20:59 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-05-14 11:48 ` Greg KH
2007-05-01 8:54 ` cache-pipe-buf-page-address-for-non-highmem-arch.patch Christoph Hellwig
2007-05-01 9:04 ` cache-pipe-buf-page-address-for-non-highmem-arch.patch Andrew Morton
2007-05-01 11:31 ` cache-pipe-buf-page-address-for-non-highmem-arch.patch Andi Kleen
2007-05-03 3:48 ` cache-pipe-buf-page-address-for-non-highmem-arch.patch Ken Chen
2007-05-01 8:55 ` consolidate-generic_writepages-and-mpage_writepages.patch Christoph Hellwig
2007-05-01 9:17 ` 2.6.22 -mm merge plans Pekka Enberg
2007-05-01 9:24 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-05-01 9:37 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-05-01 12:19 ` Andi Kleen
2007-05-01 17:12 ` Pekka Enberg
2007-05-01 10:16 ` fragmentation avoidance " Mel Gorman
2007-05-01 13:02 ` 2.6.22 -mm merge plans -- lumpy reclaim Andy Whitcroft
2007-05-01 18:03 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-05-01 19:00 ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-01 14:54 ` fragmentation avoidance Re: 2.6.22 -mm merge plans Christoph Lameter
2007-05-01 19:00 ` Mel Gorman
2007-05-01 18:57 ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-07 13:07 ` Yasunori Goto
2007-05-01 14:31 ` 2.6.22 -mm merge plans: mm-more-rmap-checking Hugh Dickins
2007-05-02 1:42 ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-02 13:17 ` Hugh Dickins
2007-05-03 0:18 ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-01 16:56 ` 2.6.22 -mm merge plans Zan Lynx
2007-05-01 17:06 ` 2.6.22 -mm merge plans: mm-detach_vmas_to_be_unmapped-fix Hugh Dickins
2007-05-01 18:10 ` 2.6.22 -mm merge plans: slub Hugh Dickins
2007-05-01 19:25 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-01 19:55 ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-01 20:19 ` Hugh Dickins
2007-05-01 20:36 ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-01 20:46 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-01 21:09 ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-02 12:54 ` Hugh Dickins
2007-05-02 17:03 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-02 19:11 ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-02 19:42 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-02 19:54 ` Sam Ravnborg
2007-05-02 20:14 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-02 18:52 ` Siddha, Suresh B
2007-05-02 18:58 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-01 21:08 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-02 12:45 ` Hugh Dickins
2007-05-02 17:01 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-02 18:08 ` Hugh Dickins
2007-05-02 18:28 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-02 18:42 ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-02 18:53 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-02 17:25 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-02 18:36 ` Hugh Dickins
2007-05-02 18:39 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-02 18:57 ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-02 19:01 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-02 19:18 ` Pekka Enberg
2007-05-02 19:34 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-02 19:43 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-03 8:15 ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-03 8:27 ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-05-03 16:30 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-03 8:46 ` Hugh Dickins
2007-05-03 8:57 ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-03 9:15 ` Hugh Dickins
2007-05-03 21:04 ` 2.6.22 -mm merge plans: slub on PowerPC Hugh Dickins
2007-05-03 21:15 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-03 22:41 ` Hugh Dickins
2007-05-04 0:25 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-05-04 0:54 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-03 16:45 ` 2.6.22 -mm merge plans: slub Christoph Lameter
2007-05-03 15:54 ` swap-prefetch: 2.6.22 -mm merge plans Ingo Molnar
2007-05-03 16:15 ` Michal Piotrowski
2007-05-03 16:23 ` Michal Piotrowski
2007-05-03 22:14 ` Con Kolivas
2007-05-04 7:34 ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-04 8:52 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-05-04 9:09 ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-04 12:10 ` Con Kolivas
2007-05-05 8:42 ` Con Kolivas
2007-05-06 10:13 ` [ck] " Antonino Ingargiola
2007-05-06 18:22 ` Jory A. Pratt
2007-05-09 23:28 ` Con Kolivas
2007-05-10 0:05 ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-10 1:34 ` Con Kolivas
2007-05-10 1:56 ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-10 3:48 ` Ray Lee
2007-05-10 3:56 ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-10 5:52 ` Ray Lee
2007-05-10 7:04 ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-10 7:20 ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-05-10 12:34 ` Ray Lee
2007-05-12 4:46 ` [PATCH] mm: swap prefetch improvements Con Kolivas
2007-05-12 5:03 ` Paul Jackson
2007-05-12 5:15 ` Con Kolivas
2007-05-12 5:51 ` Paul Jackson
2007-05-12 7:28 ` Con Kolivas
2007-05-12 8:14 ` Paul Jackson
2007-05-12 8:21 ` Con Kolivas
2007-05-12 8:37 ` Paul Jackson
2007-05-12 8:57 ` [PATCH respin] " Con Kolivas
2007-05-21 10:03 ` [PATCH] " Ingo Molnar
2007-05-21 13:44 ` Con Kolivas
2007-05-21 16:00 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-05-22 10:15 ` Antonino Ingargiola
2007-05-22 10:20 ` Con Kolivas
2007-05-22 10:25 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-05-22 10:37 ` Con Kolivas
2007-05-22 10:46 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-05-22 10:54 ` Con Kolivas
2007-05-22 10:57 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-05-22 11:04 ` Con Kolivas
[not found] ` <20070522111104.GA14950@elte.hu>
2007-05-22 11:12 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-05-22 20:18 ` [ck] " Michael Chang
2007-05-22 20:31 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-05-10 3:58 ` swap-prefetch: 2.6.22 -mm merge plans Con Kolivas
2007-05-07 14:28 ` Bill Davidsen
2007-05-07 14:18 ` Bill Davidsen
2007-05-07 17:47 ` Josef Sipek
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