From: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: MADV_FREE functionality
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 20:54:02 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <46368FAA.3080104@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070430162007.ad46e153.akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Andrew Morton wrote:
> lazy-freeing-of-memory-through-madv_free.patch
> lazy-freeing-of-memory-through-madv_free-vs-mm-madvise-avoid-exclusive-mmap_sem.patch
> restore-madv_dontneed-to-its-original-linux-behaviour.patch
>
> I think the MADV_FREE changes need more work:
>
> We need crystal-clear statements regarding the present functionality, the new
> functionality and how these relate to the spec and to implmentations in other
> OS'es. Once we have that info we are in a position to work out whether the
> code can be merged as-is, or if additional changes are needed.
There are two MADV variants that free pages, both do the exact
same thing with mapped file pages, but both do something slightly
different with anonymous pages.
MADV_DONTNEED will unmap file pages and free anonymous pages.
When a process accesses anonymous memory at an address that
was zapped with MADV_DONTNEED, it will return fresh zero filled
pages.
MADV_FREE will unmap file pages. MADV_FREE on anonymous pages
is interpreted as a signal that the application no longer needs
the data in the pages, and they can be thrown away if the kernel
needs the memory for something else. However, if the process
accesses the memory again before the kernel needs it, the process
will simply get the original pages back. If the kernel needed
the memory first, the process will get a fresh zero filled page
like with MADV_DONTNEED.
In short:
- both MADV_FREE and MADV_DONTNEED only unmap file pages
- after MADV_DONTNEED the application will always get back
fresh zero filled anonymous pages when accessing the
memory
- after MADV_FREE the application can either get back the
original data (without a page fault) or zero filled
anonymous memory
The Linux MADV_DONTNEED behavior is not POSIX compliant.
POSIX says that with MADV_DONTNEED the application's data
will be preserved.
Currently glibc simply ignores POSIX_MADV_DONTNEED requests
from applications on Linux. Changing the behaviour which
some Linux applications may rely on might not be the best
idea.
If you want POSIX_MADV_DONTNEED behaviour added, please let
me know and I'll whip up a patch.
> Because right now, I don't know where we are with respect to these things and
> I doubt if many of our users know either. How can Michael write a manpage for
> this is we don't tell him what it all does?
If you need any additional information, please let me know.
If you still think the MADV_FREE patches themselves should
not be merged yet, can we at least merge the #defines, so
the Fedora kernel can get the MADV_FREE functionality?
Again, I'd be more than willing to whip up a patch for that.
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Thread overview: 180+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-04-30 23:20 2.6.22 -mm merge plans Andrew Morton
2007-04-30 23:59 ` Bill Irwin
2007-05-01 0:09 ` nfsd/md patches " Neil Brown
2007-05-01 9:08 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-05-01 9:15 ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-01 9:21 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-05-01 9:52 ` Neil Brown
2007-05-01 10:15 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-05-01 14:34 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-05-01 0:54 ` Rik van Riel [this message]
2007-05-01 1:18 ` MADV_FREE functionality Andrew Morton
2007-05-01 1:23 ` Rik van Riel
2007-05-01 7:13 ` Jakub Jelinek
2007-05-01 1:23 ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-05-01 1:39 ` 2.6.22 -mm merge plans Stefan Richter
2007-05-01 2:30 ` 2.6.22 -mm merge plans (RE: input) Dmitry Torokhov
2007-05-01 8:11 ` 2.6.22 -mm merge plans -- pfn_valid_within Andy Whitcroft
2007-05-01 8:19 ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-01 8:44 ` 2.6.22 -mm merge plans -- vm bugfixes Nick Piggin
2007-05-01 8:54 ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-01 19:31 ` Hugh Dickins
2007-05-02 3:08 ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-02 9:15 ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-02 14:00 ` Hugh Dickins
2007-05-03 1:32 ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-03 10:37 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-05-03 12:56 ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-04 9:23 ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-04 9:43 ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-08 3:03 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-05-03 12:24 ` Hugh Dickins
2007-05-03 12:43 ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-03 12:58 ` Hugh Dickins
2007-05-03 13:08 ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-03 16:52 ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-04 4:16 ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-09 12:34 ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-09 14:28 ` Hugh Dickins
2007-05-09 14:45 ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-09 15:38 ` Hugh Dickins
2007-05-09 22:24 ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-01 8:46 ` pcmcia ioctl removal Christoph Hellwig
2007-05-01 8:56 ` Russell King
2007-05-01 8:57 ` Willy Tarreau
2007-05-01 9:08 ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-01 14:46 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-05-01 9:16 ` Robert P. J. Day
2007-05-01 9:44 ` Willy Tarreau
2007-05-01 10:16 ` Robert P. J. Day
2007-05-01 10:26 ` Gabriel C
2007-05-01 10:52 ` Willy Tarreau
2007-05-01 10:12 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-05-01 11:00 ` Willy Tarreau
2007-05-01 12:06 ` Konstantin Münning
2007-05-01 13:56 ` Rogan Dawes
2007-05-01 19:10 ` Russell King
2007-05-01 20:41 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-05-09 12:54 ` Pavel Machek
2007-05-09 13:00 ` Robert P. J. Day
2007-05-09 13:03 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-05-09 19:11 ` Romano Giannetti
2007-05-10 12:40 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-05-01 8:48 ` pci hotplug patches Christoph Hellwig
2007-05-02 3:57 ` Greg KH
2007-05-13 20:59 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-05-14 11:48 ` Greg KH
2007-05-01 8:54 ` cache-pipe-buf-page-address-for-non-highmem-arch.patch Christoph Hellwig
2007-05-01 9:04 ` cache-pipe-buf-page-address-for-non-highmem-arch.patch Andrew Morton
2007-05-01 11:31 ` cache-pipe-buf-page-address-for-non-highmem-arch.patch Andi Kleen
2007-05-03 3:48 ` cache-pipe-buf-page-address-for-non-highmem-arch.patch Ken Chen
2007-05-01 8:55 ` consolidate-generic_writepages-and-mpage_writepages.patch Christoph Hellwig
2007-05-01 9:17 ` 2.6.22 -mm merge plans Pekka Enberg
2007-05-01 9:24 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-05-01 9:37 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-05-01 12:19 ` Andi Kleen
2007-05-01 17:12 ` Pekka Enberg
2007-05-01 10:16 ` fragmentation avoidance " Mel Gorman
2007-05-01 13:02 ` 2.6.22 -mm merge plans -- lumpy reclaim Andy Whitcroft
2007-05-01 18:03 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-05-01 19:00 ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-01 14:54 ` fragmentation avoidance Re: 2.6.22 -mm merge plans Christoph Lameter
2007-05-01 19:00 ` Mel Gorman
2007-05-01 18:57 ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-07 13:07 ` Yasunori Goto
2007-05-01 14:31 ` 2.6.22 -mm merge plans: mm-more-rmap-checking Hugh Dickins
2007-05-02 1:42 ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-02 13:17 ` Hugh Dickins
2007-05-03 0:18 ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-01 16:56 ` 2.6.22 -mm merge plans Zan Lynx
2007-05-01 17:06 ` 2.6.22 -mm merge plans: mm-detach_vmas_to_be_unmapped-fix Hugh Dickins
2007-05-01 18:10 ` 2.6.22 -mm merge plans: slub Hugh Dickins
2007-05-01 19:25 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-01 19:55 ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-01 20:19 ` Hugh Dickins
2007-05-01 20:36 ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-01 20:46 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-01 21:09 ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-02 12:54 ` Hugh Dickins
2007-05-02 17:03 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-02 19:11 ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-02 19:42 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-02 19:54 ` Sam Ravnborg
2007-05-02 20:14 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-02 18:52 ` Siddha, Suresh B
2007-05-02 18:58 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-01 21:08 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-02 12:45 ` Hugh Dickins
2007-05-02 17:01 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-02 18:08 ` Hugh Dickins
2007-05-02 18:28 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-02 18:42 ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-02 18:53 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-02 17:25 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-02 18:36 ` Hugh Dickins
2007-05-02 18:39 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-02 18:57 ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-02 19:01 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-02 19:18 ` Pekka Enberg
2007-05-02 19:34 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-02 19:43 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-03 8:15 ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-03 8:27 ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-05-03 16:30 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-03 8:46 ` Hugh Dickins
2007-05-03 8:57 ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-03 9:15 ` Hugh Dickins
2007-05-03 21:04 ` 2.6.22 -mm merge plans: slub on PowerPC Hugh Dickins
2007-05-03 21:15 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-03 22:41 ` Hugh Dickins
2007-05-04 0:25 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-05-04 0:54 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-03 16:45 ` 2.6.22 -mm merge plans: slub Christoph Lameter
2007-05-03 15:54 ` swap-prefetch: 2.6.22 -mm merge plans Ingo Molnar
2007-05-03 16:15 ` Michal Piotrowski
2007-05-03 16:23 ` Michal Piotrowski
2007-05-03 22:14 ` Con Kolivas
2007-05-04 7:34 ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-04 8:52 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-05-04 9:09 ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-04 12:10 ` Con Kolivas
2007-05-05 8:42 ` Con Kolivas
2007-05-06 10:13 ` [ck] " Antonino Ingargiola
2007-05-06 18:22 ` Jory A. Pratt
2007-05-09 23:28 ` Con Kolivas
2007-05-10 0:05 ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-10 1:34 ` Con Kolivas
2007-05-10 1:56 ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-10 3:48 ` Ray Lee
2007-05-10 3:56 ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-10 5:52 ` Ray Lee
2007-05-10 7:04 ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-10 7:20 ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-05-10 12:34 ` Ray Lee
2007-05-12 4:46 ` [PATCH] mm: swap prefetch improvements Con Kolivas
2007-05-12 5:03 ` Paul Jackson
2007-05-12 5:15 ` Con Kolivas
2007-05-12 5:51 ` Paul Jackson
2007-05-12 7:28 ` Con Kolivas
2007-05-12 8:14 ` Paul Jackson
2007-05-12 8:21 ` Con Kolivas
2007-05-12 8:37 ` Paul Jackson
2007-05-12 8:57 ` [PATCH respin] " Con Kolivas
2007-05-21 10:03 ` [PATCH] " Ingo Molnar
2007-05-21 13:44 ` Con Kolivas
2007-05-21 16:00 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-05-22 10:15 ` Antonino Ingargiola
2007-05-22 10:20 ` Con Kolivas
2007-05-22 10:25 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-05-22 10:37 ` Con Kolivas
2007-05-22 10:46 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-05-22 10:54 ` Con Kolivas
2007-05-22 10:57 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-05-22 11:04 ` Con Kolivas
[not found] ` <20070522111104.GA14950@elte.hu>
2007-05-22 11:12 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-05-22 20:18 ` [ck] " Michael Chang
2007-05-22 20:31 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-05-10 3:58 ` swap-prefetch: 2.6.22 -mm merge plans Con Kolivas
2007-05-07 14:28 ` Bill Davidsen
2007-05-07 14:18 ` Bill Davidsen
2007-05-07 17:47 ` Josef Sipek
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