From: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
To: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>, shak <dshaks@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] lazy freeing of memory through MADV_FREE
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2007 10:16:51 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <462BFAF3.4040509@yahoo.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <462B0156.9020407@redhat.com>
Rik van Riel wrote:
> Nick Piggin wrote:
>
>> Rik van Riel wrote:
>>> Here are the transactions/seconds for each combination:
>>>
>>> vanilla new glibc madv_free kernel madv_free + mmap_sem
>>> threads
>>>
>>> 1 610 609 596 545
>>> 2 1032 1136 1196 1200
>>> 4 1070 1128 2014 2024
>>> 8 1000 1088 1665 2087
>>> 16 779 1073 1310 1999
>>
>>
>>
>> Is "new glibc" meaning MADV_DONTNEED + kernel with mmap_sem patch?
>
>
> No, that's just the glibc change, with a vanilla kernel.
OK. That would be interesting to see with the mmap_sem change,
because that should increase scalability.
> The third column is glibc change + mmap_sem patch.
>
> The fourth column has your patch in it, too.
>
>> The strange thing with your madv_free kernel is that it doesn't
>> help single-threaded performance at all. So that work to avoid
>> zeroing the new page is not a win at all there (maybe due to the
>> cache effects I was worried about?).
>
>
> Well, your patch causes the performance to drop from
> 596 transactions/second to 545. Your patch is the only
> difference between the third and the fourth column.
Yeah. That's funny, because it means either there is some
contention on the mmap_sem (or ptl) at 1 thread, or that my
patch alters the uncontended performance.
>> However MADV_FREE does improve scalability, which is interesting.
>> The most likely reason I can see why that may be the case is that
>> it avoids mmap_sem when faulting pages back in (I doubt it is due
>> to avoiding the page allocator, but maybe?).
>>
>> So where is the down_write coming from in this workload, I wonder?
>> Heap management? What syscalls?
>
>
> I wonder if the increased parallelism simply caused
> more cache line bouncing, with bounces happening in
> some inner loop instead of an outer loop.
>
> Btw, it is quite possible that the MySQL sysbench
> thing gives different results on your system. It
> would be good to know what it does on a real SMP
> system, vs. a single quad-core chip :)
>
> Other architectures would be interesting to know,
> too.
I don't see why parallelism should come into it at 1 thread, unless
MySQL is parallelising individual transactions. Anyway, I'll try to do
some more digging.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-04-23 0:16 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-04-17 7:15 Rik van Riel
2007-04-19 21:15 ` [PATCH] lazy freeing of memory through MADV_FREE 2/2 Rik van Riel
2007-04-20 21:03 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-20 21:24 ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-04-21 7:37 ` Hugh Dickins
2007-04-21 16:32 ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-04-20 20:57 ` [PATCH] lazy freeing of memory through MADV_FREE Andrew Morton
2007-04-20 21:38 ` Rik van Riel
2007-04-20 22:06 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-20 23:52 ` Rik van Riel
2007-04-21 0:48 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-04-21 3:58 ` Rik van Riel
2007-04-21 7:12 ` Jakub Jelinek
2007-04-23 4:36 ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-22 2:36 ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-22 2:50 ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-22 6:31 ` Rik van Riel
2007-04-23 0:16 ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2007-04-23 3:53 ` Rik van Riel
2007-04-23 3:58 ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-23 10:07 ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-23 10:12 ` Rik van Riel
2007-04-23 3:59 ` Rik van Riel
2007-04-23 9:20 ` Rik van Riel
2007-04-23 10:21 ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-23 10:31 ` Rik van Riel
2007-04-23 10:35 ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-23 10:44 ` Rik van Riel
2007-04-24 1:15 ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-24 1:58 ` Rik van Riel
2007-04-24 2:16 ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-24 4:42 ` Paul Mackerras
2007-04-24 5:13 ` Rik van Riel
2007-04-24 2:53 ` Rik van Riel
2007-04-24 3:08 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-23 10:44 ` Jakub Jelinek
2007-04-23 11:45 ` Rik van Riel
2007-04-23 4:28 ` Rik van Riel
2007-04-21 7:24 ` Hugh Dickins
2007-04-21 18:06 ` Rik van Riel
2007-04-22 8:18 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-22 9:16 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-22 16:55 ` Ulrich Drepper
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