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From: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
To: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>, shak <dshaks@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] lazy freeing of memory through MADV_FREE
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2007 10:16:51 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <462BFAF3.4040509@yahoo.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <462B0156.9020407@redhat.com>

Rik van Riel wrote:
> Nick Piggin wrote:
> 
>> Rik van Riel wrote:

>>> Here are the transactions/seconds for each combination:
>>>
>>>    vanilla   new glibc  madv_free kernel   madv_free + mmap_sem
>>> threads
>>>
>>> 1     610         609             596                545
>>> 2    1032        1136            1196               1200
>>> 4    1070        1128            2014               2024
>>> 8    1000        1088            1665               2087
>>> 16    779        1073            1310               1999
>>
>>
>>
>> Is "new glibc" meaning MADV_DONTNEED + kernel with mmap_sem patch?
> 
> 
> No, that's just the glibc change, with a vanilla kernel.

OK. That would be interesting to see with the mmap_sem change,
because that should increase scalability.


> The third column is glibc change + mmap_sem patch.
> 
> The fourth column has your patch in it, too.
> 
>> The strange thing with your madv_free kernel is that it doesn't
>> help single-threaded performance at all. So that work to avoid
>> zeroing the new page is not a win at all there (maybe due to the
>> cache effects I was worried about?).
> 
> 
> Well, your patch causes the performance to drop from
> 596 transactions/second to 545.  Your patch is the only
> difference between the third and the fourth column.

Yeah. That's funny, because it means either there is some
contention on the mmap_sem (or ptl) at 1 thread, or that my
patch alters the uncontended performance.


>> However MADV_FREE does improve scalability, which is interesting.
>> The most likely reason I can see why that may be the case is that
>> it avoids mmap_sem when faulting pages back in (I doubt it is due
>> to avoiding the page allocator, but maybe?).
>>
>> So where is the down_write coming from in this workload, I wonder?
>> Heap management? What syscalls?
> 
> 
> I wonder if the increased parallelism simply caused
> more cache line bouncing, with bounces happening in
> some inner loop instead of an outer loop.
> 
> Btw, it is quite possible that the MySQL sysbench
> thing gives different results on your system.  It
> would be good to know what it does on a real SMP
> system, vs. a single quad-core chip :)
> 
> Other architectures would be interesting to know,
> too.

I don't see why parallelism should come into it at 1 thread, unless
MySQL is parallelising individual transactions. Anyway, I'll try to do
some more digging.

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  reply	other threads:[~2007-04-23  0:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-04-17  7:15 Rik van Riel
2007-04-19 21:15 ` [PATCH] lazy freeing of memory through MADV_FREE 2/2 Rik van Riel
2007-04-20 21:03   ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-20 21:24     ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-04-21  7:37       ` Hugh Dickins
2007-04-21 16:32         ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-04-20 20:57 ` [PATCH] lazy freeing of memory through MADV_FREE Andrew Morton
2007-04-20 21:38   ` Rik van Riel
2007-04-20 22:06     ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-20 23:52       ` Rik van Riel
2007-04-21  0:48         ` Eric Dumazet
2007-04-21  3:58           ` Rik van Riel
2007-04-21  7:12         ` Jakub Jelinek
2007-04-23  4:36           ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-22  2:36         ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-22  2:50           ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-22  6:31           ` Rik van Riel
2007-04-23  0:16             ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2007-04-23  3:53               ` Rik van Riel
2007-04-23  3:58                 ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-23 10:07                   ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-23 10:12                     ` Rik van Riel
2007-04-23  3:59                 ` Rik van Riel
2007-04-23  9:20                   ` Rik van Riel
2007-04-23 10:21                     ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-23 10:31                       ` Rik van Riel
2007-04-23 10:35                         ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-23 10:44                           ` Rik van Riel
2007-04-24  1:15                             ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-24  1:58                               ` Rik van Riel
2007-04-24  2:16                                 ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-24  4:42                                 ` Paul Mackerras
2007-04-24  5:13                                   ` Rik van Riel
2007-04-24  2:53                           ` Rik van Riel
2007-04-24  3:08                             ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-23 10:44                       ` Jakub Jelinek
2007-04-23 11:45                     ` Rik van Riel
2007-04-23  4:28           ` Rik van Riel
2007-04-21  7:24     ` Hugh Dickins
2007-04-21 18:06       ` Rik van Riel
2007-04-22  8:18 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-22  9:16   ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-22 16:55     ` Ulrich Drepper

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