From: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
To: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
Cc: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>, shak <dshaks@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] lazy freeing of memory through MADV_FREE
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 12:50:34 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <462ACD7A.1070708@yahoo.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <462ACA40.8070407@yahoo.com.au>
Nick Piggin wrote:
> Rik van Riel wrote:
>
>> Andrew Morton wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 20 Apr 2007 17:38:06 -0400
>>> Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Andrew Morton wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I've also merged Nick's "mm: madvise avoid exclusive mmap_sem".
>>>>>
>>>>> - Nick's patch also will help this problem. It could be that your
>>>>> patch
>>>>> no longer offers a 2x speedup when combined with Nick's patch.
>>>>>
>>>>> It could well be that the combination of the two is even better,
>>>>> but it
>>>>> would be nice to firm that up a bit.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'll test that.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>
>>
>>
>> Well, good news.
>>
>> It turns out that Nick's patch does not improve peak
>> performance much, but it does prevent the decline when
>> running with 16 threads on my quad core CPU!
>>
>> We _definately_ want both patches, there's a huge benefit
>> in having them both.
>>
>> Here are the transactions/seconds for each combination:
>>
>> vanilla new glibc madv_free kernel madv_free + mmap_sem
>> threads
>>
>> 1 610 609 596 545
>> 2 1032 1136 1196 1200
>> 4 1070 1128 2014 2024
>> 8 1000 1088 1665 2087
>> 16 779 1073 1310 1999
>
>
>
> Is "new glibc" meaning MADV_DONTNEED + kernel with mmap_sem patch?
>
> The strange thing with your madv_free kernel is that it doesn't
> help single-threaded performance at all. So that work to avoid
> zeroing the new page is not a win at all there (maybe due to the
> cache effects I was worried about?).
>
> However MADV_FREE does improve scalability, which is interesting.
> The most likely reason I can see why that may be the case is that
> it avoids mmap_sem when faulting pages back in (I doubt it is due
> to avoiding the page allocator, but maybe?).
>
> So where is the down_write coming from in this workload, I wonder?
> Heap management? What syscalls?
>
> x86_64's rwsems are crap under heavy parallelism (even read-only),
> as I fixed in my recent generic rwsems patch. I don't expect MySQL
> to be such a mmap_sem microbenchmark, but I wonder how much this
> would help?
>
> What if we ran the private futexes patch to further cut down
> mmap_sem contention?
Hmm, without the MADV_FREE patch, I wonder if it isn't doing something
silly like read-faulting in a ZERO_PAGE then write faulting a new page
straight afterwards.. I'll have to try a few tests.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-04-22 2:50 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-04-17 7:15 Rik van Riel
2007-04-19 21:15 ` [PATCH] lazy freeing of memory through MADV_FREE 2/2 Rik van Riel
2007-04-20 21:03 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-20 21:24 ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-04-21 7:37 ` Hugh Dickins
2007-04-21 16:32 ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-04-20 20:57 ` [PATCH] lazy freeing of memory through MADV_FREE Andrew Morton
2007-04-20 21:38 ` Rik van Riel
2007-04-20 22:06 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-20 23:52 ` Rik van Riel
2007-04-21 0:48 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-04-21 3:58 ` Rik van Riel
2007-04-21 7:12 ` Jakub Jelinek
2007-04-23 4:36 ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-22 2:36 ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-22 2:50 ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2007-04-22 6:31 ` Rik van Riel
2007-04-23 0:16 ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-23 3:53 ` Rik van Riel
2007-04-23 3:58 ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-23 10:07 ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-23 10:12 ` Rik van Riel
2007-04-23 3:59 ` Rik van Riel
2007-04-23 9:20 ` Rik van Riel
2007-04-23 10:21 ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-23 10:31 ` Rik van Riel
2007-04-23 10:35 ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-23 10:44 ` Rik van Riel
2007-04-24 1:15 ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-24 1:58 ` Rik van Riel
2007-04-24 2:16 ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-24 4:42 ` Paul Mackerras
2007-04-24 5:13 ` Rik van Riel
2007-04-24 2:53 ` Rik van Riel
2007-04-24 3:08 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-23 10:44 ` Jakub Jelinek
2007-04-23 11:45 ` Rik van Riel
2007-04-23 4:28 ` Rik van Riel
2007-04-21 7:24 ` Hugh Dickins
2007-04-21 18:06 ` Rik van Riel
2007-04-22 8:18 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-22 9:16 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-22 16:55 ` Ulrich Drepper
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