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From: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
To: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
Cc: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>, shak <dshaks@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] lazy freeing of memory through MADV_FREE
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 12:50:34 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <462ACD7A.1070708@yahoo.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <462ACA40.8070407@yahoo.com.au>

Nick Piggin wrote:
> Rik van Riel wrote:
> 
>> Andrew Morton wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 20 Apr 2007 17:38:06 -0400
>>> Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Andrew Morton wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I've also merged Nick's "mm: madvise avoid exclusive mmap_sem".
>>>>>
>>>>> - Nick's patch also will help this problem.  It could be that your 
>>>>> patch
>>>>>   no longer offers a 2x speedup when combined with Nick's patch.
>>>>>
>>>>>   It could well be that the combination of the two is even better, 
>>>>> but it
>>>>>   would be nice to firm that up a bit.  
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'll test that.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>
>>
>>
>> Well, good news.
>>
>> It turns out that Nick's patch does not improve peak
>> performance much, but it does prevent the decline when
>> running with 16 threads on my quad core CPU!
>>
>> We _definately_ want both patches, there's a huge benefit
>> in having them both.
>>
>> Here are the transactions/seconds for each combination:
>>
>>    vanilla   new glibc  madv_free kernel   madv_free + mmap_sem
>> threads
>>
>> 1     610         609             596                545
>> 2    1032        1136            1196               1200
>> 4    1070        1128            2014               2024
>> 8    1000        1088            1665               2087
>> 16    779        1073            1310               1999
> 
> 
> 
> Is "new glibc" meaning MADV_DONTNEED + kernel with mmap_sem patch?
> 
> The strange thing with your madv_free kernel is that it doesn't
> help single-threaded performance at all. So that work to avoid
> zeroing the new page is not a win at all there (maybe due to the
> cache effects I was worried about?).
> 
> However MADV_FREE does improve scalability, which is interesting.
> The most likely reason I can see why that may be the case is that
> it avoids mmap_sem when faulting pages back in (I doubt it is due
> to avoiding the page allocator, but maybe?).
> 
> So where is the down_write coming from in this workload, I wonder?
> Heap management? What syscalls?
> 
> x86_64's rwsems are crap under heavy parallelism (even read-only),
> as I fixed in my recent generic rwsems patch. I don't expect MySQL
> to be such a mmap_sem microbenchmark, but I wonder how much this
> would help?
> 
> What if we ran the private futexes patch to further cut down
> mmap_sem contention?

Hmm, without the MADV_FREE patch, I wonder if it isn't doing something
silly like read-faulting in a ZERO_PAGE then write faulting a new page
straight afterwards.. I'll have to try a few tests.

-- 
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  reply	other threads:[~2007-04-22  2:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-04-17  7:15 Rik van Riel
2007-04-19 21:15 ` [PATCH] lazy freeing of memory through MADV_FREE 2/2 Rik van Riel
2007-04-20 21:03   ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-20 21:24     ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-04-21  7:37       ` Hugh Dickins
2007-04-21 16:32         ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-04-20 20:57 ` [PATCH] lazy freeing of memory through MADV_FREE Andrew Morton
2007-04-20 21:38   ` Rik van Riel
2007-04-20 22:06     ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-20 23:52       ` Rik van Riel
2007-04-21  0:48         ` Eric Dumazet
2007-04-21  3:58           ` Rik van Riel
2007-04-21  7:12         ` Jakub Jelinek
2007-04-23  4:36           ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-22  2:36         ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-22  2:50           ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2007-04-22  6:31           ` Rik van Riel
2007-04-23  0:16             ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-23  3:53               ` Rik van Riel
2007-04-23  3:58                 ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-23 10:07                   ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-23 10:12                     ` Rik van Riel
2007-04-23  3:59                 ` Rik van Riel
2007-04-23  9:20                   ` Rik van Riel
2007-04-23 10:21                     ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-23 10:31                       ` Rik van Riel
2007-04-23 10:35                         ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-23 10:44                           ` Rik van Riel
2007-04-24  1:15                             ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-24  1:58                               ` Rik van Riel
2007-04-24  2:16                                 ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-24  4:42                                 ` Paul Mackerras
2007-04-24  5:13                                   ` Rik van Riel
2007-04-24  2:53                           ` Rik van Riel
2007-04-24  3:08                             ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-23 10:44                       ` Jakub Jelinek
2007-04-23 11:45                     ` Rik van Riel
2007-04-23  4:28           ` Rik van Riel
2007-04-21  7:24     ` Hugh Dickins
2007-04-21 18:06       ` Rik van Riel
2007-04-22  8:18 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-22  9:16   ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-22 16:55     ` Ulrich Drepper

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