From: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
To: Eric Dumazet <dada1@cosmosbay.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Jakub Jelinek <jakub@redhat.com>,
Ulrich Drepper <drepper@redhat.com>,
Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>, Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, Hugh Dickins <hugh@veritas.com>
Subject: Re: missing madvise functionality
Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2007 19:45:40 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <461373C4.7050501@yahoo.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070404113447.17ccbefa.dada1@cosmosbay.com>
Eric Dumazet wrote:
> On Wed, 04 Apr 2007 18:55:18 +1000
> Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>
>
>>Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 2007-04-04 at 12:22 +1000, Nick Piggin wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Eric Dumazet wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>>I do think such workloads might benefit from a vma_cache not shared by
>>>>>all threads but private to each thread. A sequence could invalidate the
>>>>>cache(s).
>>>>>
>>>>>ie instead of a mm->mmap_cache, having a mm->sequence, and each thread
>>>>>having a current->mmap_cache and current->mm_sequence
>>>>
>>>>I have a patchset to do exactly this, btw.
>>>
>>>
>>>/me too
>>>
>>>However, I decided against pushing it because when it does happen that a
>>>task is not involved with a vma lookup for longer than it takes the seq
>>>count to wrap we have a stale pointer...
>>>
>>>We could go and walk the tasks once in a while to reset the pointer, but
>>>it all got a tad involved.
>>
>>Well here is my core patch (against I think 2.6.16 + a set of vma cache
>>cleanups and abstractions). I didn't think the wrapping aspect was
>>terribly involved.
>
>
> Well, I believe this one is too expensive. I was thinking of a light one :
>
> I am not deleting mmap_sem, but adding a sequence number to mm_struct, that is incremented each time a vma is added/deleted, not each time mmap_sem is taken (read or write)
That's exactly what mine does (except IIRC it doesn't invalidate when
you add a vma).
> Each thread has its own copy of the sequence, taken at the time find_vma() had to do a full lookup.
>
> I believe some optimized paths could call check_vma_cache() without mmap_sem read lock taken, and if it fails, take the mmap_sem lock and do the slow path.
The mmap_sem for read does not only protect the mm_rb rbtree structure, but
the vmas themselves as well as their page tables, so you can't do that.
You could do it if you had a lock-per-vma to synchronise against write
operations, and rcu-freed vmas or some such... but I don't think we should
go down a road like that until we first remove mmap_sem from low hanging
things (like private futexes!) and then see who's complaining.
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2007-04-03 19:59 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-03 20:09 ` Andi Kleen
2007-04-03 20:17 ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-04-03 20:29 ` Jakub Jelinek
2007-04-03 20:38 ` Rik van Riel
2007-04-03 21:49 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-03 23:01 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-04-04 2:22 ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-04 5:41 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-04-04 6:09 ` [patches] threaded vma patches (was Re: missing madvise functionality) Nick Piggin
2007-04-04 6:26 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-04 6:38 ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-04 6:42 ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-04-04 6:44 ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-04 6:50 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-04-04 6:54 ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-04-04 7:33 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-04-04 8:25 ` missing madvise functionality Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-04 8:55 ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-04 9:12 ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-04-04 9:23 ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-04 9:34 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-04-04 9:45 ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2007-04-04 10:05 ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-04 11:54 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-04-05 2:01 ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-05 6:09 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-04-05 6:19 ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-04-05 6:54 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-04-03 23:02 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-04 9:15 ` Hugh Dickins
2007-04-04 14:55 ` Rik van Riel
2007-04-04 15:25 ` Hugh Dickins
2007-04-05 1:44 ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-04 18:04 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-04 18:08 ` Rik van Riel
2007-04-04 20:56 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-04 18:39 ` Hugh Dickins
2007-04-03 23:44 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-04 13:09 ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-04-04 13:38 ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-04-04 18:51 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-05 4:14 ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-04-04 23:00 ` preemption and rwsems (was: Re: missing madvise functionality) Andrew Morton
2007-04-05 7:31 ` missing madvise functionality Rik van Riel
2007-04-05 7:39 ` Rik van Riel
2007-04-05 8:32 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-05 15:47 ` Rik van Riel
2007-04-05 8:08 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-04-05 8:31 ` Rik van Riel
2007-04-05 9:06 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-04-05 9:45 ` Jakub Jelinek
2007-04-05 16:15 ` Rik van Riel
2007-04-05 16:10 ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-04-06 2:28 ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-06 2:52 ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-04-06 2:59 ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-05 12:48 ` preemption and rwsems (was: Re: missing madvise functionality) David Howells
2007-04-05 19:11 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-05 20:37 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-06 9:08 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-06 19:30 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-06 19:40 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-05 19:27 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-03 20:51 ` missing madvise functionality Andrew Morton
2007-04-03 20:57 ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-04-03 21:00 ` Rik van Riel
2007-04-03 21:10 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-04-03 21:12 ` Jörn Engel
2007-04-03 21:15 ` Rik van Riel
2007-04-03 21:30 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-04-03 21:22 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-04-03 21:29 ` Rik van Riel
2007-04-03 21:46 ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-04-03 22:51 ` Andi Kleen
2007-04-03 23:07 ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-04-03 21:16 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-04 18:49 ` Anton Blanchard
2007-04-04 7:46 ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-04 8:04 ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-04 8:20 ` Jakub Jelinek
2007-04-04 8:47 ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-05 4:23 ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-05 18:38 ` Rik van Riel
2007-04-05 21:07 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-05 21:39 ` Rik van Riel
2007-04-06 1:28 ` Nick Piggin
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