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From: Anshuman Khandual <anshuman.khandual@arm.com>
To: Alistair Popple <apopple@nvidia.com>, akpm@linux-foundation.org
Cc: ajd@linux.ibm.com, catalin.marinas@arm.com,
	fbarrat@linux.ibm.com, iommu@lists.linux.dev, jgg@ziepe.ca,
	jhubbard@nvidia.com, kevin.tian@intel.com, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org, mpe@ellerman.id.au,
	nicolinc@nvidia.com, npiggin@gmail.com, robin.murphy@arm.com,
	seanjc@google.com, will@kernel.org, x86@kernel.org,
	zhi.wang.linux@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] Invalidate secondary IOMMU TLB on permission upgrade
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2023 08:34:19 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <45fadf89-27ec-07a9-746a-e5d14aba62a3@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cover.b4454f7f3d0afbfe1965e8026823cd50a42954b4.1689666760.git-series.apopple@nvidia.com>



On 7/18/23 13:26, Alistair Popple wrote:
> The main change is to move secondary TLB invalidation mmu notifier
> callbacks into the architecture specific TLB flushing functions. This
> makes secondary TLB invalidation mostly match CPU invalidation while
> still allowing efficient range based invalidations based on the
> existing TLB batching code.
> 
> ==========
> Background
> ==========
> 
> The arm64 architecture specifies TLB permission bits may be cached and
> therefore the TLB must be invalidated during permission upgrades. For
> the CPU this currently occurs in the architecture specific
> ptep_set_access_flags() routine.
> 
> Secondary TLBs such as implemented by the SMMU IOMMU match the CPU
> architecture specification and may also cache permission bits and
> require the same TLB invalidations. This may be achieved in one of two
> ways.
> 
> Some SMMU implementations implement broadcast TLB maintenance
> (BTM). This snoops CPU TLB invalidates and will invalidate any
> secondary TLB at the same time as the CPU. However implementations are
> not required to implement BTM.

So, the implementations with BTM do not even need a MMU notifier callback
for secondary TLB invalidation purpose ? Perhaps mmu_notifier_register()
could also be skipped for such cases i.e with ARM_SMMU_FEAT_BTM enabled ?

BTW, dont see ARM_SMMU_FEAT_BTM being added as a feature any where during
the probe i.e arm_smmu_device_hw_probe().

> 
> Implementations without BTM rely on mmu notifier callbacks to send
> explicit TLB invalidation commands to invalidate SMMU TLB. Therefore
> either generic kernel code or architecture specific code needs to call
> the mmu notifier on permission upgrade.
> 
> Currently that doesn't happen so devices will fault indefinitely when
> writing to a PTE that was previously read-only as nothing invalidates
> the SMMU TLB.

Why does not the current SMMU MMU notifier intercept all invalidation from
generic MM code and do the required secondary TLB invalidation ? Is there
a timing issue involved here ? Secondary TLB invalidation does happen but
after the damage has been done ? Could you please point us to a real world
bug report taking such indefinite faults as mentioned above ?

> 
> ========
> Solution
> ========
> 
> To fix this the series first renames the .invalidate_range() callback
> to .arch_invalidate_secondary_tlbs() as suggested by Jason and Sean to
> make it clear this callback is only used for secondary TLBs. That was
> made possible thanks to Sean's series [1] to remove KVM's incorrect
> usage.
> 
> Based on feedback from Jason [2] the proposed solution to the bug is
> to move the calls to mmu_notifier_arch_invalidate_secondary_tlbs()
> closer to the architecture specific TLB invalidation code. This
> ensures the secondary TLB won't miss invalidations, including the
> existing invalidation in the ARM64 code to deal with permission
> upgrade.

ptep_set_access_flags() is the only problematic place where this issue
is being reported ? If yes, why dont fix that instead of moving these
into platform specific callbacks ? OR there are other problematic areas
I might be missing.

> 
> Currently only ARM64, PowerPC and x86 have IOMMU with secondary TLBs
> requiring SW invalidation so the notifier is only called for those
> architectures. It is also not called for invalidation of kernel
> mappings as no secondary IOMMU implementations can access those and
> hence it is not required.
> 
> [1] - https://lore.kernel.org/all/20230602011518.787006-1-seanjc@google.com/
> [2] - https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/ZJMR5bw8l+BbzdJ7@ziepe.ca/
> 
> Alistair Popple (4):
>   mm_notifiers: Rename invalidate_range notifier
>   arm64/smmu: Use TLBI ASID when invalidating entire range
>   mmu_notifiers: Call arch_invalidate_secondary_tlbs() when invalidating TLBs
>   mmu_notifiers: Don't invalidate secondary TLBs as part of mmu_notifier_invalidate_range_end()
> 
>  arch/arm64/include/asm/tlbflush.h               |   5 +-
>  arch/powerpc/include/asm/book3s/64/tlbflush.h   |   1 +-
>  arch/powerpc/mm/book3s64/radix_hugetlbpage.c    |   1 +-
>  arch/powerpc/mm/book3s64/radix_tlb.c            |   6 +-
>  arch/x86/mm/tlb.c                               |   3 +-
>  drivers/iommu/amd/iommu_v2.c                    |  10 +-
>  drivers/iommu/arm/arm-smmu-v3/arm-smmu-v3-sva.c |  29 +++--
>  drivers/iommu/intel/svm.c                       |   8 +-
>  drivers/misc/ocxl/link.c                        |   8 +-
>  include/asm-generic/tlb.h                       |   1 +-
>  include/linux/mmu_notifier.h                    | 104 ++++-------------
>  kernel/events/uprobes.c                         |   2 +-
>  mm/huge_memory.c                                |  29 +----
>  mm/hugetlb.c                                    |   8 +-
>  mm/memory.c                                     |   8 +-
>  mm/migrate_device.c                             |   9 +-
>  mm/mmu_notifier.c                               |  47 +++-----
>  mm/rmap.c                                       |  40 +-------
>  18 files changed, 109 insertions(+), 210 deletions(-)
> 
> base-commit: fdf0eaf11452d72945af31804e2a1048ee1b574c


  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-07-19  3:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-07-18  7:56 Alistair Popple
2023-07-18  7:56 ` [PATCH 1/4] mm_notifiers: Rename invalidate_range notifier Alistair Popple
2023-07-18 17:57   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-07-18 18:36     ` Andrew Morton
2023-07-18 23:49       ` Alistair Popple
2023-07-18  7:56 ` [PATCH 2/4] arm64/smmu: Use TLBI ASID when invalidating entire range Alistair Popple
2023-07-18  7:56 ` [PATCH 3/4] mmu_notifiers: Call arch_invalidate_secondary_tlbs() when invalidating TLBs Alistair Popple
2023-07-18 18:17   ` Andrew Morton
2023-07-18 18:29     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-07-18  7:56 ` [PATCH 4/4] mmu_notifiers: Don't invalidate secondary TLBs as part of mmu_notifier_invalidate_range_end() Alistair Popple
2023-07-19  3:04 ` Anshuman Khandual [this message]
2023-07-19  3:14   ` [PATCH 0/4] Invalidate secondary IOMMU TLB on permission upgrade Tian, Kevin
2023-07-19  5:42     ` Alistair Popple

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