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From: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
To: Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>,
	Muchun Song <muchun.song@linux.dev>,
	Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
	Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
	bpf@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org, cgroups@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Meta kernel team <kernel-team@meta.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] memcg: nmi-safe kmem charging
Date: Mon, 12 May 2025 16:52:41 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <45bf0c55-42c4-4af7-8e77-ac8dba2768dd@suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <xe443fcnpjf4nozjuzx2lzwjqkhzhkualcwxk4f5y6e5v7d7vl@h47t3oz3ippf>

On 5/10/25 05:11, Shakeel Butt wrote:
> Before answering the questions, let me clarify that this series is
> continuation of the work which added similar support for page allocator
> and related memcg charging and now the work is happening for
> kmalloc/slab allocations. Alexei has a proposal on reentrant kmalloc and
> here I am providing how memcg charging for that (reentrant kmalloc)
> should work.
> 
> Next let me take a stab in answering the questions and BPF folks can
> correct me if I am wrong. From what I understand, users can attach BPF
> programs at almost any place in kernel and those BPF programs can do
> memory allocations. This line of work is to make those allocations work
> if the any such BPF attach point is triggered in mni context.
> 
> Before this line of work (reentrant page and slab allocators), I think
> BPF had its internal cache but it was very limited and can easily fail
> allocation requests (please BPF folks correct me if I am wrong). This
> was discussed in LSFMM this year as well.
> 
> Now regarding the impact to the users. First there will not be any
> negative impact on the non-users of this feature. For the value this
> feature will provide to users, I think this line of work will make BPF
> programs of the users more reliable with better allocation behavior.
> BPF folks, please add more comments for the value of these features.

Yes and I think this part of cover letter is also important:

> There will be a followup series which will make kernel memory charging
> reentrant for irq and will be able to do without disabling irqs.

The "without disabling irqs" part will improve performance for all users.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-05-12 14:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-05-09 23:28 Shakeel Butt
2025-05-09 23:28 ` [PATCH 1/4] memcg: add infra for nmi safe memcg stats Shakeel Butt
2025-05-09 23:28 ` [PATCH 2/4] memcg: add nmi-safe update for MEMCG_KMEM Shakeel Butt
2025-05-09 23:28 ` [PATCH 3/4] memcg: nmi-safe slab stats updates Shakeel Butt
2025-05-09 23:28 ` [PATCH 4/4] memcg: make objcg charging nmi safe Shakeel Butt
2025-05-13 22:25   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2025-05-14 16:46     ` Shakeel Butt
2025-05-10  1:26 ` [PATCH 0/4] memcg: nmi-safe kmem charging Andrew Morton
2025-05-10  3:11   ` Shakeel Butt
2025-05-10  7:00     ` Harry Yoo
2025-05-12 14:52     ` Vlastimil Babka [this message]
2025-05-12 15:56 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-05-12 19:12   ` Shakeel Butt
2025-05-13  7:15     ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-05-13 11:41       ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-05-13 22:17         ` Shakeel Butt
2025-05-14  7:11           ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-05-15  1:49           ` Shakeel Butt

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