From: Byungchul Park <byungchul.park@lge.com>
To: Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>,
Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
Byungchul Park <max.byungchul.park@gmail.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
david@fromorbit.com,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
linux-block@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
oleg@redhat.com, kernel-team@lge.com, daniel@ffwll.ch
Subject: Re: About the try to remove cross-release feature entirely by Ingo
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2018 17:23:07 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <45973bf8-f20c-ec0c-7e82-71b4d0a64998@lge.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <66296fcb-8df0-9697-2825-efa37c234ad9@lge.com>
On 1/3/2018 5:10 PM, Byungchul Park wrote:
> On 1/3/2018 4:05 PM, Theodore Ts'o wrote:
>> On Wed, Jan 03, 2018 at 11:10:37AM +0900, Byungchul Park wrote:
>>>> The point I was trying to drive home is that "all we have to do is
>>>> just classify everything well or just invalidate the right lock
>>>
>>> Just to be sure, we don't have to invalidate lock objects at all but
>>> a problematic waiter only.
>>
>> So essentially you are proposing that we have to play "whack-a-mole"
>> as we find false positives, and where we may have to put in ad-hoc
>> plumbing to only invalidate "a problematic waiter" when it's
>> problematic --- or to entirely suppress the problematic waiter
>
> If we have too many problematic completions(waiters) to handle it,
> then I agree with you. But so far, only one exits and it seems able
> to be handled even in the future on my own.
>
> Or if you believe that we have a lot of those kind of completions
> making trouble so we cannot handle it, the (4) by Amir would work,
> no? I'm asking because I'm really curious about your opinion..
>
>> altogether.A And in that case, a file system developer might be forced
>> to invalidate a lock/"waiter"/"completion" in another subsystem.
>
> As I said, with regard to the invalidation, we don't have to
> consider locks at all. It's enough to invalidate the waiter only.
>
>> I will also remind you that doing this will trigger a checkpatch.pl
>> *error*:
>
> This is what we decided. And I think the decision is reasonable for
> original lockdep. But I wonder if we should apply the same decision
> on waiters. I don't insist but just wonder.
What if we adopt the (4) in which waiters are validated one by one
and no explicit invalidation is involved?
>> ERROR("LOCKDEP", "lockdep_no_validate class is reserved for
>> device->mutex.\n" . $herecurr);
>>
>> A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A - Ted
>>
>
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Thanks,
Byungchul
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-01-03 8:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-12-13 6:24 Byungchul Park
2017-12-13 7:13 ` Byungchul Park
2017-12-13 15:23 ` Bart Van Assche
2017-12-14 3:07 ` Theodore Ts'o
2017-12-14 5:58 ` Byungchul Park
2017-12-14 11:18 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-12-14 13:30 ` Byungchul Park
2017-12-13 10:46 ` [PATCH] locking/lockdep: Remove the cross-release locking checks Ingo Molnar
2017-12-14 5:01 ` Byungchul Park
2017-12-15 4:05 ` Byungchul Park
2017-12-15 6:24 ` Theodore Ts'o
2017-12-15 7:38 ` Byungchul Park
2017-12-15 8:39 ` Byungchul Park
2017-12-15 21:15 ` Theodore Ts'o
2017-12-16 2:41 ` Byungchul Park
2017-12-29 1:47 ` About the try to remove cross-release feature entirely by Ingo Byungchul Park
2017-12-29 2:02 ` Byungchul Park
2017-12-29 3:51 ` Theodore Ts'o
2017-12-29 7:28 ` Byungchul Park
2017-12-30 6:16 ` Matthew Wilcox
2017-12-30 15:40 ` Theodore Ts'o
2017-12-30 20:44 ` Matthew Wilcox
2017-12-30 22:40 ` Theodore Ts'o
2017-12-30 23:00 ` Theodore Ts'o
2018-01-01 10:18 ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-01-01 16:00 ` Theodore Ts'o
2018-01-03 2:38 ` Byungchul Park
2018-01-03 2:28 ` Byungchul Park
2018-01-03 2:58 ` Dave Chinner
2018-01-03 5:48 ` Byungchul Park
2018-01-05 16:49 ` J. Bruce Fields
2018-01-05 17:05 ` J. Bruce Fields
2018-01-03 2:10 ` Byungchul Park
2018-01-03 7:05 ` Theodore Ts'o
2018-01-03 8:10 ` Byungchul Park
2018-01-03 8:23 ` Byungchul Park [this message]
2018-01-03 1:57 ` Byungchul Park
2018-01-02 7:57 ` Byungchul Park
2017-12-29 8:09 ` Amir Goldstein
2017-12-29 9:46 ` Byungchul Park
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