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From: Pavel Emelianov <xemul@openvz.org>
To: balbir@in.ibm.com
Cc: Pavel Emelianov <xemul@openvz.org>,
	vatsa@in.ibm.com, dev@openvz.org, sekharan@us.ibm.com,
	ckrm-tech@lists.sourceforge.net, haveblue@us.ibm.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, pj@sgi.com, matthltc@us.ibm.com,
	dipankar@in.ibm.com, rohitseth@google.com, menage@google.com,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Vaidyanathan S <svaidy@in.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [ckrm-tech] RFC: Memory Controller
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 12:25:13 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <45471679.90103@openvz.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <45471510.4070407@in.ibm.com>

Balbir Singh wrote:
> Pavel Emelianov wrote:
>> [snip]
>>
>>>> But in general I agree, these are the three important resources for
>>>> accounting and control
>>> I missed out to mention, I hope you were including the page cache in
>>> your definition of reclaimable memory.
>> As far as page cache is concerned my opinion is the following.
>> (If I misunderstood you, please correct me.)
>>
>> Page cache is designed to keep in memory as much pages as
>> possible to optimize performance. If we start limiting the page
>> cache usage we cut the performance. What is to be controlled is
>> _used_ resources (touched pages, opened file descriptors, mapped
>> areas, etc), but not the cached ones. I see nothing bad if the
>> page that belongs to a file, but is not used by ANY task in BC,
>> stays in memory. I think this is normal. If kernel wants it may
>> push this page out easily it won't event need to try_to_unmap()
>> it. So cached pages must not be accounted.
>>
> 
> The idea behind limiting the page cache is this
> 
> 1. Lets say one container fills up the page cache.
> 2. The other containers will not be able to allocate memory (even
> though they are within their limits) without the overhead of having
> to flush the page cache and freeing up occupied cache. The kernel
> will have to pageout() the dirty pages in the page cache.
> 
> Since it is easy to push the page out (as you said), it should be
> easy to impose a limit on the page cache usage of a container.

If a group is limited with memory _consumption_ it won't fill
the page cache...

>> I've also noticed that you've [snip]-ed on one of my questions.
>>
>>  > How would you allocate memory on NUMA in advance?
>>
>> Please, clarify this.
> 
> I am not quite sure I understand the question. Could you please rephrase
> it and highlight some of the difficulty?

I'd like to provide a guarantee for a newly created group. According
to your idea I have to preallocate some pages in advance. OK. How to
select a NUMA node to allocate them from?

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  reply	other threads:[~2006-10-31  9:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20061030103356.GA16833@in.ibm.com>
     [not found] ` <4545D51A.1060808@in.ibm.com>
     [not found]   ` <4546212B.4010603@openvz.org>
     [not found]     ` <454638D2.7050306@in.ibm.com>
2006-10-30 18:07       ` Balbir Singh
2006-10-31  8:57         ` Pavel Emelianov
2006-10-31  9:19           ` Balbir Singh
2006-10-31  9:25             ` Pavel Emelianov [this message]
2006-10-31 10:10               ` Balbir Singh
2006-10-31 10:19                 ` Pavel Emelianov
2006-10-31  9:42             ` Andrew Morton
2006-10-31 10:36               ` Balbir Singh
     [not found]       ` <45470DF4.70405@openvz.org>
2006-10-31 10:54         ` Balbir Singh
2006-10-31 11:15           ` Pavel Emelianov
2006-10-31 12:39             ` Balbir Singh
2006-10-31 14:19               ` Pavel Emelianov
2006-10-31 16:54             ` Paul Menage
2006-11-01  6:00             ` David Rientjes
2006-11-01  8:05               ` Pavel Emelianov
2006-11-01  8:35                 ` David Rientjes

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