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From: Qi Zheng <qi.zheng@linux.dev>
To: Harry Yoo <harry.yoo@oracle.com>
Cc: Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>,
	hannes@cmpxchg.org, hughd@google.com, mhocko@suse.com,
	roman.gushchin@linux.dev, muchun.song@linux.dev,
	david@kernel.org, lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com, ziy@nvidia.com,
	yosry.ahmed@linux.dev, imran.f.khan@oracle.com,
	kamalesh.babulal@oracle.com, axelrasmussen@google.com,
	yuanchu@google.com, weixugc@google.com,
	chenridong@huaweicloud.com, mkoutny@suse.com,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, hamzamahfooz@linux.microsoft.com,
	apais@linux.microsoft.com, lance.yang@linux.dev,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	cgroups@vger.kernel.org, Qi Zheng <zhengqi.arch@bytedance.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 28/30] mm: memcontrol: prepare for reparenting state_local
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2026 15:22:20 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4535d53c-68aa-4c3d-b95e-6fbafdb83881@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aXtRWdwwmi7G-Hlg@hyeyoo>



On 1/29/26 8:23 PM, Harry Yoo wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 29, 2026 at 04:50:39PM +0800, Qi Zheng wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 1/29/26 10:10 AM, Harry Yoo wrote:
>>> On Mon, Jan 19, 2026 at 11:34:53AM +0800, Qi Zheng wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 1/18/26 11:20 AM, Shakeel Butt wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, Jan 14, 2026 at 07:32:55PM +0800, Qi Zheng wrote:
>>>>>> From: Qi Zheng <zhengqi.arch@bytedance.com>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To resolve the dying memcg issue, we need to reparent LRU folios of child
>>>>>> memcg to its parent memcg. The following counts are all non-hierarchical
>>>>>> and need to be reparented to prevent the counts of parent memcg overflow.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. memcg->vmstats->state_local[i]
>>>>>> 2. pn->lruvec_stats->state_local[i]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This commit implements the specific function, which will be used during
>>>>>> the reparenting process.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please add more explanation which was discussed in the email chain at
>>>>> https://lore.kernel.org/all/5dsb6q2r4xsi24kk5gcnckljuvgvvp6nwifwvc4wuho5hsifeg@5ukg2dq6ini5/
>>>>
>>>> OK, will do.
>>>>
>>>>>> diff --git a/mm/memcontrol.c b/mm/memcontrol.c
>>>>>> index 70583394f421f..7aa32b97c9f17 100644
>>>>>> --- a/mm/memcontrol.c
>>>>>> +++ b/mm/memcontrol.c
>>>>>> @@ -225,6 +225,28 @@ static inline struct obj_cgroup *__memcg_reparent_objcgs(struct mem_cgroup *memc
>>>>>>     	return objcg;
>>>>>>     }
>>>>>> +#ifdef CONFIG_MEMCG_V1
>>>>>> +static void __mem_cgroup_flush_stats(struct mem_cgroup *memcg, bool force);
>>>>>> +
>>>>>> +static inline void reparent_state_local(struct mem_cgroup *memcg, struct mem_cgroup *parent)
>>>>>> +{
>>>>>> +	if (cgroup_subsys_on_dfl(memory_cgrp_subsys))
>>>>>> +		return;
>>>>>> +
>>>>>> +	synchronize_rcu();
>>>>>
>>>>> Hmm synchrinuze_rcu() is a heavy hammer here. Also you would need rcu
>>>>> read lock in mod_memcg_state() & mod_memcg_lruvec_state() for this
>>>>> synchronize_rcu().
>>>>
>>>> Since these two functions require memcg or lruvec, they are already
>>>> within the critical section of the RCU lock.
>>>
>>> What happens if someone grabbed a refcount and then release the rcu read
>>> lock before percpu refkill and then call mod_memcg[_lruvec]_state()?
>>>
>>> In this case, can we end up reparenting in the middle of non-hierarchical
>>> stat update because they don't have RCU grace period?
>>>
>>> Something like
>>>
>>> T1				T2
>>>
>>> 				- rcu_read_lock()
>>> 				- get memcg refcnt
>>> 				- rcu_read_unlock()
>>>
>>> 				- call mod_memcg_state()
>>> 				- CSS_IS_DYING is not set
>>> - Set CSS_IS_DYING
>>> - Trigger percpu refkill
>>> 				
>>> - Trigger offline_css()
>>>     -> reparent non-hierarchical	- update non-hierarchical stats
>>>        stats
>>> 				- put memcg refcount
>>
>> Good catch, I think you are right.
>>
>> The rcu lock should be added to mod_memcg_state() and
>> mod_memcg_lruvec_state().
> 
> Thanks for confirming!
> 
> Because it's quite confusing, let me ask few more questions...
> 
> Q1. Yosry mentioned [1] [2] that stat updates should be done in the same
> RCU section that is used to grab a refcount of the cgroup.
> 
> But I don't think your work is relying on that. Instead, I guess, it's
> relying on the CSS_DYING check from reader side to determine whether it

Only relying the CSS_DYING check is insufficient. Otherwise, the
following race may occur:

T1				T2

				memcg_is_dying is false
Set CSS_IS_DYING
reparent non-hierarchical	update non-hierarchical stats for child

So IIUC we should add rcu lock, then:

T1				T2

				rcu_read_lock
				memcg_is_dying is false

Set CSS_IS_DYING
				update non-hierarchical stats for child
				rcu_read_unlock

synchronize_rcu or rcu work
--> reparent non-hierarchical


> should update stats of the child or parent memcg, right?
> 
> -> That being said, when rcu_read_lock() is called _after_ stats are
>     reparented, the reader must observe that the CSS_DYING flag is set.
> 
> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/all/utl6esq7jz5e4f7kwgrpwdjc2rm3yi33ljb6xkm5nxzufa4o7s@hblq2piu3vnz
> [2] https://lore.kernel.org/all/ebdhvcwygvnfejai5azhg3sjudsjorwmlcvmzadpkhexoeq3tb@5gj5y2exdhpn
> 
> Q2. When a reader checks CSS_DYING flag, how is the flag change
> guaranteed to be visible to the reader without any lock, memory barrier,
> or atomic ops involved?

The main situation requiring CSS_DYING check is as follow:

T1				T2

Set CSS_IS_DYING

synchronize_rcu or rcu work
--> reparent non-hierarchical
				rcu_read_lock()
				memcg_is_dying is true
				update non-hierarchical stats for parent

Referring to the "Memory-Barrier Guarantees" section in [1], 
synchronize_rcu() can guarantee that T2 can see CSS_IS_DYING. Right?


[1]. 
https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/RCU/Design/Requirements/Requirements.rst

Thanks,
Qi

> 
> As Shakeel mentioned elsewhere, I hope some explanations for correctness
> to be included in the commit message :)
> 
>> I will update to v4 as soon as possible.
> 
> Thanks a lot!
> 
> I'll wait for that and will review carefully to make sure it's correct ;)
> 
>> Thanks,
>> Qi
>>
>>>>> Hmm instead of synchronize_rcu() here, we can use queue_rcu_work() in
>>>>> css_killed_ref_fn(). It would be as simple as the following:
>>>>
>>>> It does look much simpler, will do.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Qi
> 



  reply	other threads:[~2026-01-30  7:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 101+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-01-14 11:26 [PATCH v3 00/30] Eliminate Dying Memory Cgroup Qi Zheng
2026-01-14 11:26 ` [PATCH v3 01/30] mm: memcontrol: remove dead code of checking parent memory cgroup Qi Zheng
2026-01-14 11:26 ` [PATCH v3 02/30] mm: workingset: use folio_lruvec() in workingset_refault() Qi Zheng
2026-01-14 11:26 ` [PATCH v3 03/30] mm: rename unlock_page_lruvec_irq and its variants Qi Zheng
2026-01-14 11:26 ` [PATCH v3 04/30] mm: vmscan: prepare for the refactoring the move_folios_to_lru() Qi Zheng
2026-01-16  9:10   ` Harry Yoo
2026-01-16  9:14   ` Muchun Song
2026-01-14 11:26 ` [PATCH v3 05/30] mm: vmscan: refactor move_folios_to_lru() Qi Zheng
2026-01-16 11:31   ` Harry Yoo
2026-01-14 11:26 ` [PATCH v3 06/30] mm: memcontrol: allocate object cgroup for non-kmem case Qi Zheng
2026-01-14 11:32 ` [PATCH v3 07/30] mm: memcontrol: return root object cgroup for root memory cgroup Qi Zheng
2026-01-16 12:53   ` Harry Yoo
2026-01-14 11:32 ` [PATCH v3 08/30] mm: memcontrol: prevent memory cgroup release in get_mem_cgroup_from_folio() Qi Zheng
2026-01-17 20:00   ` Shakeel Butt
2026-01-18  0:31   ` Shakeel Butt
2026-01-19  3:20     ` Qi Zheng
2026-01-19  8:53     ` Harry Yoo
2026-01-14 11:32 ` [PATCH v3 09/30] buffer: prevent memory cgroup release in folio_alloc_buffers() Qi Zheng
2026-01-14 11:32 ` [PATCH v3 10/30] writeback: prevent memory cgroup release in writeback module Qi Zheng
2026-01-14 11:32 ` [PATCH v3 11/30] mm: memcontrol: prevent memory cgroup release in count_memcg_folio_events() Qi Zheng
2026-01-14 11:32 ` [PATCH v3 12/30] mm: page_io: prevent memory cgroup release in page_io module Qi Zheng
2026-01-14 11:32 ` [PATCH v3 13/30] mm: migrate: prevent memory cgroup release in folio_migrate_mapping() Qi Zheng
2026-01-14 11:32 ` [PATCH v3 14/30] mm: mglru: prevent memory cgroup release in mglru Qi Zheng
2026-01-17 22:46   ` Shakeel Butt
2026-01-19  9:25   ` Harry Yoo
2026-01-14 11:32 ` [PATCH v3 15/30] mm: memcontrol: prevent memory cgroup release in mem_cgroup_swap_full() Qi Zheng
2026-01-14 11:32 ` [PATCH v3 16/30] mm: workingset: prevent memory cgroup release in lru_gen_eviction() Qi Zheng
2026-01-14 11:32 ` [PATCH v3 17/30] mm: thp: prevent memory cgroup release in folio_split_queue_lock{_irqsave}() Qi Zheng
2026-01-16  9:15   ` Muchun Song
2026-01-14 11:32 ` [PATCH v3 18/30] mm: zswap: prevent memory cgroup release in zswap_compress() Qi Zheng
2026-01-16  9:18   ` Muchun Song
2026-01-20  7:47   ` Harry Yoo
2026-01-14 11:32 ` [PATCH v3 19/30] mm: workingset: prevent lruvec release in workingset_refault() Qi Zheng
2026-01-17 23:02   ` Shakeel Butt
2026-01-14 11:32 ` [PATCH v3 20/30] mm: zswap: prevent lruvec release in zswap_folio_swapin() Qi Zheng
2026-01-14 11:32 ` [PATCH v3 21/30] mm: swap: prevent lruvec release in lru_gen_clear_refs() Qi Zheng
2026-01-14 11:32 ` [PATCH v3 22/30] mm: workingset: prevent lruvec release in workingset_activation() Qi Zheng
2026-01-14 11:32 ` [PATCH v3 23/30] mm: do not open-code lruvec lock Qi Zheng
2026-01-15  9:26   ` Baoquan He
2026-01-15  9:31     ` Qi Zheng
2026-01-16  9:20   ` Muchun Song
2026-01-17 23:08   ` Shakeel Butt
2026-01-20  7:58   ` Harry Yoo
2026-01-14 11:32 ` [PATCH v3 24/30] mm: memcontrol: prepare for reparenting LRU pages for " Qi Zheng
2026-01-16  9:43   ` Muchun Song
2026-01-16  9:50     ` Qi Zheng
2026-01-18  0:44       ` Shakeel Butt
2026-01-19  3:44         ` Qi Zheng
2026-01-20 15:54           ` Shakeel Butt
2026-01-18  0:46   ` Shakeel Butt
2026-01-20  8:21   ` Harry Yoo
2026-01-20 11:51     ` Qi Zheng
2026-01-20 12:50       ` Harry Yoo
2026-01-14 11:32 ` [PATCH v3 25/30] mm: vmscan: prepare for reparenting traditional LRU folios Qi Zheng
2026-01-16  9:49   ` Muchun Song
2026-01-18  1:11   ` Shakeel Butt
2026-01-19  3:24     ` Qi Zheng
2026-01-14 11:32 ` [PATCH v3 26/30] mm: vmscan: prepare for reparenting MGLRU folios Qi Zheng
2026-01-15 10:44   ` [PATCH v3 26/30 fix] mm: mglru: do not call update_lru_size() during reparenting Qi Zheng
2026-01-15 17:46     ` Andrew Morton
2026-01-21  3:53     ` Harry Yoo
2026-01-21  4:19       ` Harry Yoo
2026-01-21 11:21         ` Qi Zheng
2026-01-18  3:25   ` [PATCH v3 26/30] mm: vmscan: prepare for reparenting MGLRU folios Shakeel Butt
2026-01-18  3:29   ` Shakeel Butt
2026-01-19  3:39     ` Qi Zheng
2026-01-14 11:32 ` [PATCH v3 27/30] mm: memcontrol: refactor memcg_reparent_objcgs() Qi Zheng
2026-01-18  2:31   ` Shakeel Butt
2026-01-22  9:04   ` Harry Yoo
2026-01-22  9:13   ` Muchun Song
2026-01-14 11:32 ` [PATCH v3 28/30] mm: memcontrol: prepare for reparenting state_local Qi Zheng
2026-01-15 10:41   ` [PATCH v3 28/30 fix 1/2] mm: memcontrol: fix lruvec_stats->state_local reparenting Qi Zheng
2026-01-15 10:41     ` [PATCH v3 28/30 fix 2/2] mm: memcontrol: change state_locals to atomic_long_t type Qi Zheng
2026-01-15 17:47     ` [PATCH v3 28/30 fix 1/2] mm: memcontrol: fix lruvec_stats->state_local reparenting Andrew Morton
2026-01-16  3:27       ` Qi Zheng
2026-01-18  3:22     ` Shakeel Butt
2026-01-19  3:36       ` Qi Zheng
2026-01-20  7:19         ` Muchun Song
2026-01-20 18:47           ` Shakeel Butt
2026-01-21  3:43             ` Qi Zheng
2026-01-21  8:20               ` Shakeel Butt
2026-01-21 11:25                 ` Qi Zheng
2026-01-18  3:20   ` [PATCH v3 28/30] mm: memcontrol: prepare for reparenting state_local Shakeel Butt
2026-01-19  3:34     ` Qi Zheng
2026-01-29  2:10       ` Harry Yoo
2026-01-29  8:50         ` Qi Zheng
2026-01-29 12:23           ` Harry Yoo
2026-01-30  7:22             ` Qi Zheng [this message]
2026-02-02  3:15               ` Harry Yoo
2026-01-14 11:32 ` [PATCH v3 29/30] mm: memcontrol: eliminate the problem of dying memory cgroup for LRU folios Qi Zheng
2026-01-14 11:32 ` [PATCH v3 30/30] mm: lru: add VM_WARN_ON_ONCE_FOLIO to lru maintenance helpers Qi Zheng
2026-01-14 17:07 ` [syzbot ci] Re: Eliminate Dying Memory Cgroup syzbot ci
2026-01-15  3:47   ` Qi Zheng
2026-01-14 17:58 ` [PATCH v3 00/30] " Andrew Morton
2026-01-15  3:52   ` Qi Zheng
2026-01-15  5:59     ` Andrew Morton
2026-01-15  6:05       ` Qi Zheng
2026-01-15 12:40   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-16  0:43     ` Andrew Morton
2026-01-16  8:33       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-16 12:25         ` Michal Hocko

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