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From: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
To: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
Cc: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>, Hugh Dickins <hugh@veritas.com>,
	Linux Memory Management <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>, Jes Sorensen <jes@sgi.com>,
	Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Subject: Re: faults and signals
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 11:20:06 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <452AF546.4000901@yahoo.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1160442685.32237.27.camel@localhost.localdomain>

Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> OK, so we made some good progress... now remains my pet issue... faults
> and signals :)
> 
> So in SPUfs, I have cases where apps trying to access user-space
> registers of an SPE that is scheduled out might end up blocking a long
> time in the page fault handler. I'm not 100% sure about DRM at this
> point but I suppose they might have good use of a similar ability I'm
> trying to provide which is for a page fault to be interruptible. That
> would allow various cases of processes stuck in kernel for a logn time
> (or forever if something goes wrong).
> 
> I think your new fault() thingy is the perfect way to get there. In the
> normal page fault case, a signal is easy to handle: just refault
> (NOPAGE_REFAULT without your patch or return NULL; with your patch,
> though we might want to define a -EINTR result explicitely) and the
> signals will be handled on the return to userland path. However, we
> can't really handle them in get_user_pages() nor on kernel own faults
> (__get_user etc...), at least not until we define versions of these that
> can return -EINTR (we might want to do that for get_user_pages, but
> let's assume not for now).
> 
> Thus what is needed is a way to inform the page fault handler wether it
> can be interruptible or not. This could be done using the flags you have
> in there, or some other bits in the argument structure.

Yep, the flags field should be able to do that for you. Since we have
the handle_mm_fault wrapper for machine faults, it isn't too hard to
change the arguments: we should probably turn `write_access` into a
flag so we don't have to push too many arguments onto the stack.

This way we can distinguish get_user_pages faults. And your
architecture will have to switch over to using __handle_mm_fault, and
distinguish kernel faults. Something like that?

> That way, faults could basically check if coming from userland (testing
> the ptregs) and set interruptible in that case (and possibly a flag to
> get_user_pages() telling it can be interruptible for use by drivers who
> can deal with it).
> 
> At the vm_ops level, existing things are fine, they are not
> interruptible, and I can modify spufs to check that new flag and return
> -EINTR on signals when waiting.
> 
> In fact, it might be that filemap and some filesystems might even want
> to handle interruptible page faults :) but that's a different matter.

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  reply	other threads:[~2006-10-10  1:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-10-09 16:12 [rfc] 2.6.19-rc1-git5: consolidation of file backed fault handlers Nick Piggin
2006-10-09 16:12 ` [patch 1/5] mm: fault vs invalidate/truncate check Nick Piggin
2006-10-09 16:12 ` [patch 2/5] mm: fault vs invalidate/truncate race fix Nick Piggin
2006-10-09 21:10   ` Mark Fasheh
2006-10-10  1:10     ` Nick Piggin
2006-10-11 18:34       ` Mark Fasheh
2006-10-12  3:28         ` Nick Piggin
2006-10-09 16:12 ` [patch 3/5] mm: fault handler to replace nopage and populate Nick Piggin
2006-10-09 16:12 ` [patch 4/5] mm: add vm_insert_pfn helpler Nick Piggin
2006-10-09 21:03   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-10-10  0:42     ` Nick Piggin
2006-10-10  1:11       ` faults and signals Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-10-10  1:20         ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2006-10-10  1:58           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-10-10  2:00             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-10-10  2:04               ` Nick Piggin
2006-10-10  2:07                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-10-10  1:16       ` ptrace and pfn mappings Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-10-10  2:23         ` Nick Piggin
2006-10-10  2:47           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-10-10  2:56             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-10-10  3:03               ` Nick Piggin
2006-10-10  3:42                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-10-10  2:58             ` Nick Piggin
2006-10-10  3:40               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-10-10  3:46                 ` Nick Piggin
2006-10-10  4:58                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-10-10 12:31         ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-10-10 12:42           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-10-10 18:06           ` Hugh Dickins
2006-10-09 16:13 ` [patch 5/5] mm: merge nopfn with fault handler Nick Piggin
2006-10-09 20:57 ` [rfc] 2.6.19-rc1-git5: consolidation of file backed fault handlers Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-10-09 21:00   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-10-10  0:53     ` Nick Piggin

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