From: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
To: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
Cc: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>, Hugh Dickins <hugh@veritas.com>,
Linux Memory Management <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>, Jes Sorensen <jes@sgi.com>,
Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Subject: Re: faults and signals
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 11:20:06 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <452AF546.4000901@yahoo.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1160442685.32237.27.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> OK, so we made some good progress... now remains my pet issue... faults
> and signals :)
>
> So in SPUfs, I have cases where apps trying to access user-space
> registers of an SPE that is scheduled out might end up blocking a long
> time in the page fault handler. I'm not 100% sure about DRM at this
> point but I suppose they might have good use of a similar ability I'm
> trying to provide which is for a page fault to be interruptible. That
> would allow various cases of processes stuck in kernel for a logn time
> (or forever if something goes wrong).
>
> I think your new fault() thingy is the perfect way to get there. In the
> normal page fault case, a signal is easy to handle: just refault
> (NOPAGE_REFAULT without your patch or return NULL; with your patch,
> though we might want to define a -EINTR result explicitely) and the
> signals will be handled on the return to userland path. However, we
> can't really handle them in get_user_pages() nor on kernel own faults
> (__get_user etc...), at least not until we define versions of these that
> can return -EINTR (we might want to do that for get_user_pages, but
> let's assume not for now).
>
> Thus what is needed is a way to inform the page fault handler wether it
> can be interruptible or not. This could be done using the flags you have
> in there, or some other bits in the argument structure.
Yep, the flags field should be able to do that for you. Since we have
the handle_mm_fault wrapper for machine faults, it isn't too hard to
change the arguments: we should probably turn `write_access` into a
flag so we don't have to push too many arguments onto the stack.
This way we can distinguish get_user_pages faults. And your
architecture will have to switch over to using __handle_mm_fault, and
distinguish kernel faults. Something like that?
> That way, faults could basically check if coming from userland (testing
> the ptregs) and set interruptible in that case (and possibly a flag to
> get_user_pages() telling it can be interruptible for use by drivers who
> can deal with it).
>
> At the vm_ops level, existing things are fine, they are not
> interruptible, and I can modify spufs to check that new flag and return
> -EINTR on signals when waiting.
>
> In fact, it might be that filemap and some filesystems might even want
> to handle interruptible page faults :) but that's a different matter.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-10-10 1:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-10-09 16:12 [rfc] 2.6.19-rc1-git5: consolidation of file backed fault handlers Nick Piggin
2006-10-09 16:12 ` [patch 1/5] mm: fault vs invalidate/truncate check Nick Piggin
2006-10-09 16:12 ` [patch 2/5] mm: fault vs invalidate/truncate race fix Nick Piggin
2006-10-09 21:10 ` Mark Fasheh
2006-10-10 1:10 ` Nick Piggin
2006-10-11 18:34 ` Mark Fasheh
2006-10-12 3:28 ` Nick Piggin
2006-10-09 16:12 ` [patch 3/5] mm: fault handler to replace nopage and populate Nick Piggin
2006-10-09 16:12 ` [patch 4/5] mm: add vm_insert_pfn helpler Nick Piggin
2006-10-09 21:03 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-10-10 0:42 ` Nick Piggin
2006-10-10 1:11 ` faults and signals Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-10-10 1:20 ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2006-10-10 1:58 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-10-10 2:00 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-10-10 2:04 ` Nick Piggin
2006-10-10 2:07 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-10-10 1:16 ` ptrace and pfn mappings Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-10-10 2:23 ` Nick Piggin
2006-10-10 2:47 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-10-10 2:56 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-10-10 3:03 ` Nick Piggin
2006-10-10 3:42 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-10-10 2:58 ` Nick Piggin
2006-10-10 3:40 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-10-10 3:46 ` Nick Piggin
2006-10-10 4:58 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-10-10 12:31 ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-10-10 12:42 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-10-10 18:06 ` Hugh Dickins
2006-10-09 16:13 ` [patch 5/5] mm: merge nopfn with fault handler Nick Piggin
2006-10-09 20:57 ` [rfc] 2.6.19-rc1-git5: consolidation of file backed fault handlers Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-10-09 21:00 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-10-10 0:53 ` Nick Piggin
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