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From: Zhenhua Huang <quic_zhenhuah@quicinc.com>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>, <anshuman.khandual@arm.com>,
	<catalin.marinas@arm.com>
Cc: <will@kernel.org>, <ardb@kernel.org>, <ryan.roberts@arm.com>,
	<mark.rutland@arm.com>, <joey.gouly@arm.com>,
	<dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>, <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	<chenfeiyang@loongson.cn>, <chenhuacai@kernel.org>,
	<linux-mm@kvack.org>, <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, <quic_tingweiz@quicinc.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7] arm64: mm: Populate vmemmap at the page level if not section aligned
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2025 17:29:55 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <45076e28-dd70-456f-83b2-7b4d532c455c@quicinc.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <00c82c92-35a0-441c-b5b5-e4a6c8a4a9b7@redhat.com>



On 2025/2/27 1:13, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> Sorry, I somehow missed this mail.
> 

No problem. Thanks for your reply.

>>>> Hi David,
>>>>
>>>> I had the same doubt initially.
>>>> After going through the codes, I noticed for vmemmap_populate(), the
>>>> arguments "start" and "end" passed down should already be within one
>>>> section.
>>>> early path:
>>>> for_each_present_section_nr
>>>>      __populate_section_memmap
>>>>          ..
>>>>          vmemmap_populate()
>>>>
>>>> hotplug path:
>>>> __add_pages
>>>>      section_activate
>>>>          vmemmap_populate()
>>>>
>>>> Therefore.. focusing only on the size seems OK to me, and fall back
>>>> solution below appears unnecessary?
>>>
>>> Ah, in that case it is fine. Might make sense to document/enforce that
>>> somehow for the time being ...
>>
>> Shall I document and WARN_ON if the size exceeds? like:
>> WARN_ON(end - start > PAGES_PER_SECTION * sizeof(struct page))
> 
> Probably WARN_ON_ONCE() along with a comment that we should never exceed 
> a single memory section.

Got it.

> 
>>
>> Since vmemmap_populate() is implemented per architecture, the change
>> should apply for other architectures as well. However I have no setup to
>> test it on...
>> Therefore, May I implement it only for arm64 now ?
> 
> Would work for me; better than no warning.

I made one patch several days ago, could you please help review once? 
https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/20250219084001.1272445-1-quic_zhenhuah@quicinc.com/T/
Is there anything else you would suggest besides preferring WARN_ON_ONCE() ?

> 
>> Additionally, from previous discussion, the change is worth
>> backporting(apologies for missing to CC stable kernel in this version).
>> Keeping it for arm64 should simplify for backporting. WDYT?
> 
> Jup. Of course, we could add a generic warning in a separate patch.
> 
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>> +/*
>>>>> + * Try to populate PMDs, but fallback to populating base pages when
>>>>> ranges
>>>>> + * would only partially cover a PMD.
>>>>> + */
>>>>>     int __meminit vmemmap_populate_hugepages(unsigned long start,
>>>>> unsigned
>>>>> long end,
>>>>>                                             int node, struct 
>>>>> vmem_altmap
>>>>> *altmap)
>>>>>     {
>>>>> @@ -313,6 +317,9 @@ int __meminit vmemmap_populate_hugepages(unsigned
>>>>> long start, unsigned long end,
>>>>>            for (addr = start; addr < end; addr = next) {
>>>>
>>>> This for loop appears to be redundant for arm64 as well, as above
>>>> mentioned, a single call to pmd_addr_end() should suffice.
>>>
>>> Right, that was what was confusing me in the first place.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>                    next = pmd_addr_end(addr, end);
>>>>>
>>>>> +               if (!IS_ALIGNED(addr, PMD_SIZE) || !IS_ALIGNED(next,
>>>>> PMD_SIZE))
>>>>> +                       goto fallback;
>>>>> +
>>>>>                    pgd = vmemmap_pgd_populate(addr, node);
>>>>>                    if (!pgd)
>>>>>                            return -ENOMEM;
>>>>> @@ -346,6 +353,7 @@ int __meminit vmemmap_populate_hugepages(unsigned
>>>>> long start, unsigned long end,
>>>>>                            }
>>>>>                    } else if (vmemmap_check_pmd(pmd, node, addr, 
>>>>> next))
>>>>>                            continue;
>>>>> +fallback:
>>>>>                    if (vmemmap_populate_basepages(addr, next, node,
>>>>> altmap))
>>>>>                            return -ENOMEM;
>>>>
>>>> It seems we have no chance to call populate_basepages here?
>>>
>>>
>>> Can you elaborate?
>>
>> It's invoked within vmemmap_populate_hugepages(), which is called by
>> vmemmap_populate(). This implies that we are always performing a whole
>> section hotplug?
> 
> Ah, you meant only in the context of this change, yes. I was confused, 
> because there are other reasons why we run into that fallback (failing 
> to allocate a PMD).

I observed that this logic was introduced in 
2045a3b8911b("mm/sparse-vmemmap: generalise 
vmemmap_populate_hugepages()") which moved from arch-dependent 
codes(such as vmemmap_set_pmd() in arch/loongarch/mm/init.c or 
arch/x86/mm/init_64.c) to common arch-independent code(function 
vmemmap_populate_hugepages).

I suspect it might be causing the confusion, as it may not be fully 
compatible with arm64. However, it does not seem to cause any bugs :)

> 



      reply	other threads:[~2025-03-03  9:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-02-17  9:29 Zhenhua Huang
2025-02-17  9:44 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-02-17 10:34   ` Zhenhua Huang
2025-02-17 14:30     ` David Hildenbrand
2025-02-18  3:07       ` Zhenhua Huang
2025-02-26 17:13         ` David Hildenbrand
2025-03-03  9:29           ` Zhenhua Huang [this message]

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