From: Daniel Phillips <phillips@google.com>
To: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Cc: a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl, linux-mm@kvack.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 2/9] deadlock prevention core
Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2006 22:44:37 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <44D97645.90104@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060808.184144.71088399.davem@davemloft.net>
David Miller wrote:
>From: Daniel Phillips <phillips@google.com>
>>David Miller wrote:
>>>I think the new atomic operation that will seemingly occur on every
>>>device SKB free is unacceptable.
>>
>>Alternate suggestion?
>
> Sorry, I have none. But you're unlikely to get your changes
> considered seriously unless you can avoid any new overhead your patch
> has which is of this level.
We just skip anything new unless the socket is actively carrying block
IO traffic, in which case we pay a miniscule price to avoid severe
performance artifacts or in the worst case, deadlock. So in this design
the new atomic operation does not occur on every device SKP free.
All atomic ops sit behind the cheap test:
(dev->flags & IFF_MEMALLOC)
or if any have escaped that is just an oversight. Peter?
> We're busy trying to make these data structures smaller, and eliminate
> atomic operations, as much as possible. Therefore anything which adds
> new datastructure elements and new atomic operations will be met with
> fierce resistence unless it results an equal or greater shrink of
> datastructures elsewhere or removes atomic operations elsewhere in
> the critical path.
Right now we have a problem because our network stack cannot support
block IO reliably. Without that, Linux is no enterprise storage
platform.
Regards,
Daniel
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-08-09 5:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 140+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-08-08 19:33 [RFC][PATCH 0/9] Network receive deadlock prevention for NBD Peter Zijlstra
2006-08-08 19:33 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/9] pfn_to_kaddr() for UML Peter Zijlstra
2006-08-08 19:33 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/9] deadlock prevention core Peter Zijlstra
2006-08-08 20:57 ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-08-08 21:05 ` Peter Zijlstra
2006-08-09 1:33 ` Daniel Phillips
2006-08-09 1:38 ` David Miller, Daniel Phillips
2006-08-08 21:17 ` Thomas Graf
2006-08-09 1:34 ` Daniel Phillips
2006-08-09 1:39 ` David Miller, Daniel Phillips
2006-08-09 5:47 ` Daniel Phillips
2006-08-09 13:19 ` Thomas Graf
2006-08-09 14:07 ` Peter Zijlstra
2006-08-09 16:18 ` Thomas Graf
2006-08-09 16:19 ` Peter Zijlstra
2006-08-10 0:01 ` David Miller, Peter Zijlstra
2006-08-09 23:58 ` David Miller, Peter Zijlstra
2006-08-10 6:25 ` Peter Zijlstra
2006-08-11 4:24 ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-08-13 21:22 ` Daniel Phillips
2006-08-13 23:49 ` David Miller, Daniel Phillips
2006-08-14 1:15 ` Daniel Phillips
2006-08-11 2:37 ` Rik van Riel
2006-08-13 22:05 ` Daniel Phillips
2006-08-13 23:55 ` David Miller, Daniel Phillips
2006-08-14 1:31 ` Daniel Phillips
2006-08-14 1:53 ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-14 4:40 ` Peter Zijlstra
2006-08-14 4:58 ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-14 5:03 ` Peter Zijlstra
2006-08-14 5:22 ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-14 6:45 ` Peter Zijlstra
2006-08-14 7:07 ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-14 8:15 ` Peter Zijlstra
2006-08-14 8:25 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-14 8:35 ` Peter Zijlstra
2006-08-14 8:33 ` David Miller, Andrew Morton
2006-08-17 4:27 ` Daniel Phillips
2006-08-14 7:17 ` Neil Brown
2006-08-14 7:31 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-17 3:58 ` Daniel Phillips
2006-08-17 5:57 ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-17 23:53 ` Daniel Phillips
2006-08-18 0:24 ` Rik van Riel
2006-08-18 0:35 ` Daniel Phillips
2006-08-18 1:14 ` Neil Brown
2006-08-18 6:05 ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-18 21:22 ` Daniel Phillips
2006-08-18 22:34 ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-18 23:44 ` Daniel Phillips
2006-08-19 2:44 ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-19 4:14 ` Network receive stall avoidance (was [PATCH 2/9] deadlock prevention core) Daniel Phillips
2006-08-19 7:28 ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-19 15:06 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/9] deadlock prevention core Rik van Riel
2006-08-20 1:33 ` Andre Tomt
2006-08-19 16:53 ` Ray Lee
2006-08-21 13:27 ` Philip R. Auld
2006-08-25 10:47 ` Pavel Machek
2006-08-21 13:38 ` Jens Axboe
2006-08-08 22:10 ` David Miller
2006-08-09 1:35 ` Daniel Phillips
2006-08-09 1:41 ` David Miller, Daniel Phillips
2006-08-09 5:44 ` Daniel Phillips [this message]
2006-08-09 7:00 ` Peter Zijlstra
[not found] ` <42414.81.207.0.53.1155080443.squirrel@81.207.0.53>
2006-08-09 0:25 ` Daniel Phillips
2006-08-09 12:02 ` Indan Zupancic
2006-08-09 12:54 ` Peter Zijlstra
2006-08-09 13:48 ` Indan Zupancic
2006-08-09 14:00 ` Peter Zijlstra
2006-08-09 18:34 ` Indan Zupancic
2006-08-09 19:45 ` Peter Zijlstra
2006-08-09 20:19 ` Peter Zijlstra
2006-08-10 1:21 ` Indan Zupancic
2006-08-09 16:05 ` -v2 " Peter Zijlstra
2006-08-08 19:33 ` [RFC][PATCH 3/9] e1000 driver conversion Peter Zijlstra
2006-08-08 20:50 ` Auke Kok
2006-08-08 20:59 ` Peter Zijlstra
2006-08-08 22:32 ` David Miller, Auke Kok
2006-08-08 22:42 ` Auke Kok
2006-08-08 19:34 ` [RFC][PATCH 4/9] e100 " Peter Zijlstra
2006-08-08 20:13 ` Auke Kok
2006-08-08 20:18 ` Peter Zijlstra
2006-08-08 19:34 ` [RFC][PATCH 5/9] r8169 " Peter Zijlstra
2006-08-08 19:34 ` [RFC][PATCH 6/9] tg3 " Peter Zijlstra
2006-08-08 19:34 ` [RFC][PATCH 7/9] UML eth " Peter Zijlstra
2006-08-08 19:34 ` [RFC][PATCH 8/9] 3c59x " Peter Zijlstra
2006-08-08 23:07 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-08-09 5:51 ` Daniel Phillips
2006-08-09 5:55 ` David Miller, Daniel Phillips
2006-08-09 6:30 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-08-09 7:03 ` Peter Zijlstra
2006-08-09 7:20 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-08-13 19:38 ` Daniel Phillips
2006-08-13 19:53 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-08-08 19:34 ` [RFC][PATCH 9/9] deadlock prevention for NBD Peter Zijlstra
2006-08-09 5:46 ` [RFC][PATCH 0/9] Network receive " Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-09 5:52 ` Daniel Phillips
2006-08-09 5:56 ` David Miller, Daniel Phillips
2006-08-09 5:53 ` David Miller, Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-09 5:55 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-09 12:37 ` Peter Zijlstra
2006-08-09 13:07 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-09 13:32 ` Peter Zijlstra
2006-08-09 19:29 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-09 23:54 ` David Miller, Peter Zijlstra
2006-08-10 6:06 ` Peter Zijlstra
2006-08-13 20:16 ` Daniel Phillips
2006-08-14 5:13 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-14 6:45 ` Peter Zijlstra
2006-08-14 6:54 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-17 4:49 ` Daniel Phillips
2006-08-17 4:48 ` Daniel Phillips
2006-08-17 5:36 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-17 18:01 ` Daniel Phillips
2006-08-17 18:42 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-17 19:15 ` Peter Zijlstra
2006-08-17 19:48 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-17 23:24 ` Daniel Phillips
2006-08-18 7:16 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-12 3:42 ` Rik van Riel
2006-08-12 8:47 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-12 9:19 ` Peter Zijlstra
2006-08-12 9:37 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-12 10:18 ` Peter Zijlstra
2006-08-12 10:42 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-12 10:51 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-12 11:40 ` Peter Zijlstra
2006-08-12 11:53 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-13 0:46 ` David Miller, Peter Zijlstra
2006-08-13 1:11 ` Rik van Riel
2006-08-12 14:40 ` Rik van Riel
2006-08-12 14:49 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-12 14:56 ` Rik van Riel
2006-08-12 15:08 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-12 15:22 ` Peter Zijlstra
2006-08-14 0:56 ` Daniel Phillips
2006-08-13 0:46 ` David Miller, Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-13 9:06 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-13 9:52 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-15 19:17 ` Pavel Machek
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