From: Andy Whitcroft <apw@shadowen.org>
To: "Martin J. Bligh" <mbligh@mbligh.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>, Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl, linux-mm@kvack.org, torvalds@osdl.org,
piggin@cyberone.com.au, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: use-once cleanup
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 15:44:53 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <44C8D165.3060803@shadowen.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <44C8C80F.8010705@mbligh.org>
Martin J. Bligh wrote:
>
>>> Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> This is yet another implementation of the PG_useonce cleanup spoken of
>>>> during the VM summit.
>>>>
>>> After getting bitten by rsync yet again, I guess it's time to insist
>>> that this patch gets merged...
>>>
>>> Andrew, could you merge this? Pretty please? ;)
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Guys, this is a performance patch, right?
>>
>> One which has no published performance testing results, right?
>>
>> It would be somewhat odd to merge it under these circumstances.
>>
>> And this applies to all of these
>> hey-this-is-cool-but-i-didnt-bother-testing-it MM patches which people
>> are
>> throwing around. This stuff is *hard*. It has a bad tendency to cause
>> nasty problems which only become known months after the code is merged.
>>
>> I shouldn't have to describe all this, but
>>
>> - Identify the workloads which it's supposed to improve, set up tests,
>> run tests, publish results.
>>
>> - Identify the workloads which it's expected to damage, set up tests, run
>> tests, publish results.
>>
>> - Identify workloads which aren't expected to be impacted, make a good
>> effort at demonstrating that they are not impacted.
>>
>> - Perform stability/stress testing, publish results.
>>
>> Writing the code is about 5% of the effort for this sort of thing.
>>
>> Yes, we can toss it in the tree and see what happens. But it tends to be
>> the case that unless someone does targetted testing such as the above,
>> regressions simply aren't noticed for long periods of time. <wonders
>> which
>> schmuck gets to do the legwork when people report problems>
>>
>> Just the (unchangelogged) changes to the
>> when-to-call-mark_page_accessed()
>> logic are a big deal. Probably these should be a separate patch -
>> separately changelogged, separately tested, separately justified.
>>
>> Performance testing is *everything* for this sort of patch and afaict
>> none
>> has been done, so it's as if it hadn't been written, no?
>> -
>>
>>
>>
> Rik / Peter ... I lost the original mail + patch, but if you put it
> up on a URL somewhere, Andy would probably run it through the test
> harness for at least some basic perf testing, if you ask him ;-)
> Probably against mainline, not -mm, as -mm seems to have other
> problems right now.
I'll happily run it through the test suites once I get my machines
working again after 2.6.18-rc2-mm1 has finished with them :(.
-apw
--
To unsubscribe, send a message with 'unsubscribe linux-mm' in
the body to majordomo@kvack.org. For more info on Linux MM,
see: http://www.linux-mm.org/ .
Don't email: <a href=mailto:"dont@kvack.org"> email@kvack.org </a>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-07-27 14:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-07-17 20:40 Peter Zijlstra
2006-07-27 7:48 ` Rik van Riel
2006-07-27 8:12 ` Andrew Morton
2006-07-27 14:05 ` Martin J. Bligh
2006-07-27 14:44 ` Andy Whitcroft [this message]
2006-07-28 15:34 ` Mel Gorman
2006-07-28 16:57 ` Peter Zijlstra
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=44C8D165.3060803@shadowen.org \
--to=apw@shadowen.org \
--cc=a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl \
--cc=akpm@osdl.org \
--cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=linux-mm@kvack.org \
--cc=mbligh@mbligh.org \
--cc=piggin@cyberone.com.au \
--cc=riel@redhat.com \
--cc=torvalds@osdl.org \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox