From: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
To: Con Kolivas <kernel@kolivas.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
ck@vds.kolivas.org, linux list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: limit lowmem_reserve
Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 17:11:33 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <446C1E25.4080408@yahoo.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200605180011.43216.kernel@kolivas.org>
Con Kolivas wrote:
> I hate to resuscitate this old thread, sorry but I'm still not sure we
> resolved it and I want to make sure this issue isn't here as I see it.
>
OK, reclaim is slightly different.
> On Saturday 08 April 2006 11:25, Nick Piggin wrote:
>
>>Con Kolivas wrote:
>>
>>>Ok. I think I presented enough information for why I thought
>>>zone_watermark_ok would fail (for ZONE_DMA). With 16MB ZONE_DMA and a
>>>vmsplit of 3GB we have a lowmem_reserve of 12MB. It's pretty hard to keep
>>>that much ZONE_DMA free, I don't think I've ever seen that much free on
>>>my ZONE_DMA on an ordinary desktop without any particular ZONE_DMA users.
>>>Changing the tunable can make the lowmem_reserve larger than ZONE_DMA is
>>>on any vmsplit too as far as I understand the ratio.
>>
>>Umm, for ZONE_DMA allocations, ZONE_DMA isn't a lower zone. So that
>>12MB protection should never come into it (unless it is buggy?).
>
>
> An i386 pc with a 3GB split will have approx
>
> 4000 pages ZONE_DMA
>
> and lowmem reserve will set lowmem reserve to approx
>
> 0 0 3000 3000
>
> So if we call zone_watermark_ok with zone of ZONE_DMA and a classzone_idx of a
> ZONE_NORMAL we will fail a zone_watermark_ok test almost always since it's
> almost impossible to have 3000 free ZONE_DMA pages. I believe it can happen
> like this:
>
> In balance_pgdat (vmscan.c:1116) if we end up with end_zone being a
> ZONE_NORMAL zone, then during the scan below we (vmscan.c:1137) iterate over
> all zones from 0 to end_zone and (vmscan.c:1147) we end up calling
>
> if (!zone_watermark_ok(zone, order, zone->pages_high, end_zone, 0))
>
> which would now call zone_watermark_ok with zone being a ZONE_DMA, and
> end_zone being the idx of a ZONE_NORMAL.
>
> So in summary if I'm not mistaken (and I'm good at being mistaken), if we
> balance pgdat and find that ZONE_NORMAL or higher needs scanning, we'll end
> up trying to flush the crap out of ZONE_DMA.
If we're under memory pressure, kswapd will try to free up any candidate
zone, yes.
>
> On my test case this indeed happens and my ZONE_DMA never goes below 3000
> pages free. If I lower the reserve even further my pages free gets stuck at
> 3208 and can't free any more, and doesn't ever drop below that either.
>
> Here is the patch I was proposing
What problem does that fix though?
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Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <200604021401.13331.kernel@kolivas.org>
[not found] ` <200604031248.13532.kernel@kolivas.org>
[not found] ` <200604041235.59876.kernel@kolivas.org>
2006-04-06 1:10 ` Con Kolivas
2006-04-06 1:29 ` Respin: " Con Kolivas
2006-04-06 2:43 ` Andrew Morton
2006-04-06 2:55 ` Con Kolivas
2006-04-06 2:58 ` Con Kolivas
2006-04-06 3:40 ` Andrew Morton
2006-04-06 4:36 ` Con Kolivas
2006-04-06 4:52 ` Con Kolivas
2006-04-07 6:25 ` Nick Piggin
2006-04-07 9:02 ` Con Kolivas
2006-04-07 12:40 ` Nick Piggin
2006-04-08 0:15 ` Con Kolivas
2006-04-08 0:55 ` Nick Piggin
2006-04-08 1:01 ` Con Kolivas
2006-04-08 1:25 ` Nick Piggin
2006-05-17 14:11 ` Con Kolivas
2006-05-18 7:11 ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2006-05-18 7:21 ` Con Kolivas
2006-05-18 7:26 ` Nick Piggin
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