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From: Nick Piggin <piggin@cyberone.com.au>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	clameter@sgi.com, torvalds@osdl.org, ak@suse.de,
	rohitseth@google.com, mbligh@google.com, hugh@veritas.com,
	riel@redhat.com, andrea@suse.de, arjan@infradead.org,
	apw@shadowen.org, mel@csn.ul.ie, marcelo@kvack.org,
	anton@samba.org, paulmck@us.ibm.com, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 1/3] tracking dirty pages in shared mappings -V4
Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 11:51:18 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4463EA16.5090208@cyberone.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060511080220.48688b40.akpm@osdl.org>


Andrew Morton wrote:

>Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl> wrote:
>
>>
>>From: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
>>
>>People expressed the need to track dirty pages in shared mappings.
>>
>>Linus outlined the general idea of doing that through making clean
>>writable pages write-protected and taking the write fault.
>>
>>This patch does exactly that, it makes pages in a shared writable
>>mapping write-protected. On write-fault the pages are marked dirty and
>>made writable. When the pages get synced with their backing store, the
>>write-protection is re-instated.
>>
>>It survives a simple test and shows the dirty pages in /proc/vmstat.
>>
>
>It'd be nice to have more that a "simple test" done.  Bugs in this area
>will be subtle and will manifest in unpleasant ways.  That goes for both
>correctness and performance bugs.
>
>
>>Index: linux-2.6/mm/memory.c
>>===================================================================
>>--- linux-2.6.orig/mm/memory.c	2006-05-08 18:49:39.000000000 +0200
>>+++ linux-2.6/mm/memory.c	2006-05-09 09:15:11.000000000 +0200
>>@@ -49,6 +49,7 @@
>> #include <linux/module.h>
>> #include <linux/init.h>
>> #include <linux/mm_page_replace.h>
>>+#include <linux/backing-dev.h>
>> 
>> #include <asm/pgalloc.h>
>> #include <asm/uaccess.h>
>>@@ -2077,6 +2078,7 @@ static int do_no_page(struct mm_struct *
>> 	unsigned int sequence = 0;
>> 	int ret = VM_FAULT_MINOR;
>> 	int anon = 0;
>>+	struct page *dirty_page = NULL;
>> 
>> 	pte_unmap(page_table);
>> 	BUG_ON(vma->vm_flags & VM_PFNMAP);
>>@@ -2150,6 +2152,11 @@ retry:
>> 		entry = mk_pte(new_page, vma->vm_page_prot);
>> 		if (write_access)
>> 			entry = maybe_mkwrite(pte_mkdirty(entry), vma);
>>+		else if (VM_SharedWritable(vma)) {
>>+			struct address_space *mapping = page_mapping(new_page);
>>+			if (mapping && mapping_cap_account_dirty(mapping))
>>+				entry = pte_wrprotect(entry);
>>+		}
>> 		set_pte_at(mm, address, page_table, entry);
>> 		if (anon) {
>> 			inc_mm_counter(mm, anon_rss);
>>@@ -2159,6 +2166,10 @@ retry:
>> 		} else {
>> 			inc_mm_counter(mm, file_rss);
>> 			page_add_file_rmap(new_page);
>>+			if (write_access) {
>>+				dirty_page = new_page;
>>+				get_page(dirty_page);
>>+			}
>>
>
>So let's see.  We take a write fault, we mark the page dirty then we return
>to userspace which will proceed with the write and will mark the pte dirty.
>
>Later, the VM will write the page out.
>
>Later still, the pte will get cleaned by reclaim or by munmap or whatever
>and the page will be marked dirty and the page will again be written out. 
>Potentially needlessly.
>

page_wrprotect also marks the page clean, so this window is very small.
The window is that the fault path might set_page_dirty, then throttle
on writeout, and the page gets written out before it really gets dirtied
by the application (which then has to fault again).

>
>How much extra IO will we be doing because of this change?
>

Of course it can do potentially quite a lot more IO in some cases, if
an application likes to dirty a working set larger than the writeout
thresholds... the same scenario as write(2) has now.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-05-12  1:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-05-05 20:35 [RFC][PATCH] tracking dirty pages in shared mappings Peter Zijlstra
2006-05-06 13:18 ` Nick Piggin
2006-05-06 13:34   ` Peter Zijlstra
2006-05-06 13:47     ` Nick Piggin
2006-05-06 15:29       ` Peter Zijlstra
2006-05-07  0:40         ` Nick Piggin
2006-05-07  3:43           ` Nick Piggin
2006-05-08  6:43         ` Christoph Lameter
2006-05-08  7:23           ` Peter Zijlstra
2006-05-08 19:20           ` [RFC][PATCH 1/2] tracking dirty pages in shared mappings -V3 Peter Zijlstra
2006-05-09  5:41             ` Christoph Lameter
2006-05-09  6:06               ` Peter Zijlstra
2006-05-09 20:44               ` [RFC][PATCH 1/3] tracking dirty pages in shared mappings -V4 Peter Zijlstra
2006-05-09 20:52                 ` Peter Chubb
2006-05-09 20:55                   ` Martin Bligh
2006-05-09 22:56                     ` Brian Twichell
2006-05-10  0:24                     ` Linus Torvalds
2006-05-10  0:29                       ` Nick Piggin
2006-05-10  1:24                         ` Linus Torvalds
2006-05-11 15:02                 ` Andrew Morton
2006-05-11 16:39                   ` Andy Whitcroft
2006-05-11 22:52                   ` Christoph Lameter
2006-05-11 23:30                     ` Linus Torvalds
2006-05-11 23:44                       ` Andrew Morton
2006-05-12  0:10                         ` Linus Torvalds
2006-05-12  8:07                         ` Andy Whitcroft
2006-05-12 14:25                           ` Martin J. Bligh
2006-05-14 15:58                         ` Andy Whitcroft
2006-05-12  1:51                   ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2006-05-12  4:30                     ` Andrew Morton
2006-05-12  5:05                       ` Nick Piggin
2006-05-12  7:06                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2006-05-12  8:04                         ` Nick Piggin
2006-05-12  8:52                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2006-05-12  8:07                         ` Nick Piggin
2006-05-12  4:51                   ` Christoph Lameter
2006-05-09 20:44               ` [RFC][PATCH 2/3] throttle writers of shared mappings Peter Zijlstra
2006-05-09 22:54                 ` Nick Piggin
2006-05-09 22:55                   ` Nick Piggin
2006-05-10  6:25                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2006-05-09 20:44               ` [RFC][PATCH 3/3] optimize follow_pages() Peter Zijlstra
2006-05-10  6:30                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2006-05-08 19:24           ` [RFC][PATCH 2/2] throttle writers of shared mappings Peter Zijlstra

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