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From: Zi Yan <zi.yan@cs.rutgers.edu>
To: "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>
Cc: Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	vbabka@suse.cz, mgorman@techsingularity.net,
	n-horiguchi@ah.jp.nec.com, khandual@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
	Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 03/14] mm: use pmd lock instead of racy checks in zap_pmd_range()
Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2017 18:25:09 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <44001748-05AC-49B2-88F5-371618C12AD9@cs.rutgers.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170207174536.GC5578@node.shutemov.name>

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Hi Kirill,

>>>> The crash scenario I guess is like:
>>>> 1. A huge page pmd entry is in the middle of being changed into either a
>>>> pmd_protnone or a pmd_migration_entry. It is cleared to pmd_none.
>>>>
>>>> 2. At the same time, the application frees the vma this page belongs to.
>>>
>>> Em... no.
>>>
>>> This shouldn't be possible: your 1. must be done under down_read(mmap_sem).
>>> And we only be able to remove vma under down_write(mmap_sem), so the
>>> scenario should be excluded.
>>>
>>> What do I miss?
>>
>> You are right. This problem will not happen in the upstream kernel.
>>
>> The problem comes from my customized kernel, where I migrate pages away
>> instead of reclaiming them when memory is under pressure. I did not take
>> any mmap_sem when I migrate pages. So I got this error.
>>
>> It is a false alarm. Sorry about that. Thanks for clarifying the problem.
>
> I think there's still a race between MADV_DONTNEED and
> change_huge_pmd(.prot_numa=1) resulting in skipping THP by
> zap_pmd_range(). It need to be addressed.
>
> And MADV_FREE requires a fix.
>
> So, minus one non-bug, plus two bugs.
>

You said a huge page pmd entry needs to be changed under down_read(mmap_sem).
It is only true for huge pages, right?

Since in mm/compaction.c, the kernel does not down_read(mmap_sem) during memory
compaction. Namely, base page migrations do not hold down_read(mmap_sem),
so in zap_pte_range(), the kernel needs to hold PTE page table locks.
Am I right about this?

If yes. IMHO, ultimately, when we need to compact 2MB pages to form 1GB pages,
in zap_pmd_range(), pmd locks have to be taken to make that kind of compactions
possible.

Do you agree?


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Best Regards
Yan Zi

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  reply	other threads:[~2017-02-13  0:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-02-05 16:12 [PATCH v3 00/14] mm: page migration enhancement for thp Zi Yan
2017-02-05 16:12 ` [PATCH v3 01/14] mm: thp: make __split_huge_pmd_locked visible Zi Yan
2017-02-06  6:12   ` Naoya Horiguchi
2017-02-06 12:10     ` Zi Yan
2017-02-06 15:02   ` Matthew Wilcox
2017-02-06 15:03     ` Zi Yan
2017-02-05 16:12 ` [PATCH v3 02/14] mm: thp: create new __zap_huge_pmd_locked function Zi Yan
2017-02-05 16:12 ` [PATCH v3 03/14] mm: use pmd lock instead of racy checks in zap_pmd_range() Zi Yan
2017-02-06  4:02   ` Hillf Danton
2017-02-06  4:14     ` Zi Yan
2017-02-06  7:43   ` Naoya Horiguchi
2017-02-06 13:02     ` Zi Yan
2017-02-06 23:22       ` Naoya Horiguchi
2017-02-06 16:07   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-02-06 16:32     ` Zi Yan
2017-02-06 17:35       ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-02-07 13:55     ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2017-02-07 14:12       ` Zi Yan
2017-02-07 14:19   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-02-07 15:11     ` Zi Yan
2017-02-07 16:37       ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-02-07 17:14         ` Zi Yan
2017-02-07 17:45           ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-02-13  0:25             ` Zi Yan [this message]
2017-02-13 10:59               ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-02-13 14:40                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2017-02-05 16:12 ` [PATCH v3 04/14] mm: x86: move _PAGE_SWP_SOFT_DIRTY from bit 7 to bit 1 Zi Yan
2017-02-09  9:14   ` Naoya Horiguchi
2017-02-09 15:07     ` Zi Yan
2017-02-05 16:12 ` [PATCH v3 05/14] mm: mempolicy: add queue_pages_node_check() Zi Yan
2017-02-05 16:12 ` [PATCH v3 06/14] mm: thp: introduce separate TTU flag for thp freezing Zi Yan
2017-02-05 16:12 ` [PATCH v3 07/14] mm: thp: introduce CONFIG_ARCH_ENABLE_THP_MIGRATION Zi Yan
2017-02-05 16:12 ` [PATCH v3 08/14] mm: thp: enable thp migration in generic path Zi Yan
2017-02-09  9:15   ` Naoya Horiguchi
2017-02-09 15:17     ` Zi Yan
2017-02-09 23:04       ` Naoya Horiguchi
2017-02-14 20:13   ` Zi Yan
2017-02-05 16:12 ` [PATCH v3 09/14] mm: thp: check pmd migration entry in common path Zi Yan
2017-02-09  9:16   ` Naoya Horiguchi
2017-02-09 17:36     ` Zi Yan
2017-02-05 16:12 ` [PATCH v3 10/14] mm: soft-dirty: keep soft-dirty bits over thp migration Zi Yan
2017-02-05 16:12 ` [PATCH v3 11/14] mm: hwpoison: soft offline supports " Zi Yan
2017-02-05 16:12 ` [PATCH v3 12/14] mm: mempolicy: mbind and migrate_pages support " Zi Yan
2017-02-05 16:12 ` [PATCH v3 13/14] mm: migrate: move_pages() supports " Zi Yan
2017-02-09  9:16   ` Naoya Horiguchi
2017-02-09 17:37     ` Zi Yan
2017-02-05 16:12 ` [PATCH v3 14/14] mm: memory_hotplug: memory hotremove " Zi Yan
2017-02-23 16:12 ` [PATCH v3 00/14] mm: page migration enhancement for thp Zi Yan

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