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From: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
To: Joel Schopp <jschopp@austin.ibm.com>
Cc: Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	lhms-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Lhms-devel] Re: [PATCH 0/5] Reducing fragmentation using zones
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 09:13:50 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <43D02B3E.5030603@jp.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <43CFE77B.3090708@austin.ibm.com>

Joel Schopp wrote:
>> Benchmark comparison between -mm+NoOOM tree and with the new zones
> 
> I know you had also previously posted a very simplified version of your 
> real fragmentation avoidance patches.  I was curious if you could repost 
> those with the other benchmarks for a 3 way comparison.  The simplified 
> version got rid of a lot of the complexity people were complaining about 
> and in my mind still seems like preferable direction.
> 
I agree. I think you should try with simplified version again.
Then, we can discuss.

  I don't like using bitmap which I removed (T.T

> Zone based approaches are runtime inflexible and require boot time 
> tuning by the sysadmin.  There are lots of workloads that "reasonable" 
> defaults for a zone based approach would cause the system to regress 
> terribly.
> 
IMHO, I don't like automatic runtime tuning, you say 'flexible' here.
I think flexibility allows 2^(MAX_ORDER - 1) size fragmentaion.
When SECTION_SIZE > MAX_ORDER, this is terrible.

I love certainty that sysadmin can grap his system at boot-time.
And, for people who want to remove range of memory, list-based approach will
need some other hook and its flexibility is of no use.
(If list-based approach goes, I or someone will do.)

I know zone->zone_start_pfn can be removed very easily.
This means there is possiblity to reconfigure zone on demand and
zone-based approach can be a bit more fliexible.


- Kame

> -Joel
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  reply	other threads:[~2006-01-20  0:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-01-19 19:08 Mel Gorman
2006-01-19 19:08 ` [PATCH 1/5] Add __GFP_EASYRCLM flag and update callers Mel Gorman
2006-01-19 19:08 ` [PATCH 2/5] Create the ZONE_EASYRCLM zone Mel Gorman
2006-01-19 19:09 ` [PATCH 3/5] x86 - Specify amount of kernel memory at boot time Mel Gorman
2006-01-19 19:09 ` [PATCH 4/5] ppc64 " Mel Gorman
2006-01-19 19:09 ` [PATCH 5/5] ForTesting - Prevent OOM killer firing for high-order allocations Mel Gorman
2006-01-19 19:24 ` [PATCH 0/5] Reducing fragmentation using zones Joel Schopp
2006-01-20  0:13   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki [this message]
2006-01-20  1:09     ` [Lhms-devel] " Mel Gorman
2006-01-20  1:25       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2006-01-20  9:44         ` Mel Gorman
2006-01-20 10:40           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2006-01-20 14:53             ` Mel Gorman
2006-01-20 18:10               ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2006-01-20 12:08           ` Yasunori Goto
2006-01-20 12:25             ` Mel Gorman
2006-01-20 13:22               ` Yasunori Goto
2006-01-20  0:42   ` Mel Gorman
2006-01-20  1:18     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2006-01-20 12:03       ` Mel Gorman
2006-01-20 13:28         ` [Lhms-devel] " Yasunori Goto
2006-01-20 14:02           ` Mel Gorman

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