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From: David Laight <David.Laight@ACULAB.COM>
To: 'Jonas Oberhauser' <jonas.oberhauser@huaweicloud.com>,
	Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
	'Alan Stern' <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
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	"Greg Kroah-Hartman" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	John Stultz <jstultz@google.com>,
	Neeraj Upadhyay <Neeraj.Upadhyay@amd.com>,
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	Mateusz Guzik <mjguzik@gmail.com>, Gary Guo <gary@garyguo.net>,
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Subject: RE: [PATCH 1/2] compiler.h: Introduce ptr_eq() to preserve address dependency
Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2024 13:18:58 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <43788527053542e78001820857445e4d@AcuMS.aculab.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6ae2461a-e509-4c4d-8959-ae17eb214419@huaweicloud.com>

From: Jonas Oberhauser
> Sent: 07 October 2024 12:55
> 
> Am 10/3/2024 um 3:23 PM schrieb Mathieu Desnoyers:
> > What _does_ work however are the following two approaches:
> >
> > 1) Perform the equality check on the original variables, creating
> > new versions (with OPTIMIZER_HIDE_VAR) of both variables for the
> > rest of their use, therefore making sure the pointer dereference
> > are not derived from versions of the variables which were compared
> > with another pointer. (as suggested by Boqun)
> 
> This should not be guaranteed to work, because right after the
> comparison the compiler can do b=a, then it doesn't matter how much you
> hide afterwards.
> 
> However it might work if you escape the addresses of a and b first, in
> which case the compiler will not do b=a anymore, but it might force the
> compiler to put a and b on the stack, which has some performance impact.

Nope, as pointed out last week, the compiler can move the 'a == b'
check to before the OPTIMISER_HID_VAR() and then use the same register
for both of them.

> > 2) Perform the equality check on the versions resulting of hiding
> > both variables, making sure those versions of the variables are
> > not dereferenced afterwards. (as suggested by Linus)

That (and other things) could usefully use:
#define OPTIMISER_HIDE_VALUE(x) \
	({ __auto_type _x = x; OPTIMISER_HIDE_VAR(_x); _x; })
You'll almost certainly end up with a register-register move
even if 'x' isn't used afterwards.

The calling could just become:
	if (a == OPTIMISER_HIDE_VALUE(b) ...
since it is likely that you only care about one of the pointers.
(Actually isn't hiding one of them always enough?)

	David

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  reply	other threads:[~2024-10-07 13:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-09-28 13:51 [PATCH 0/2] " Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-09-28 13:51 ` [PATCH 1/2] compiler.h: " Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-09-28 14:49   ` Alan Stern
2024-09-28 15:30     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-09-28 15:32     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-09-28 15:49       ` Alan Stern
2024-09-28 15:55         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-09-28 21:15           ` Alan Stern
2024-09-30  9:42             ` Jonas Oberhauser
2024-09-30 11:04               ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-09-30 12:06                 ` Jonas Oberhauser
2024-09-30 13:54                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-09-28 22:26           ` Alan Huang
2024-09-28 23:55             ` Boqun Feng
2024-09-29  0:20               ` Alan Huang
2024-09-30  8:57             ` Jonas Oberhauser
2024-09-30  9:15               ` Alan Huang
2024-09-30  9:27                 ` Alan Huang
2024-09-30  9:33                   ` Jonas Oberhauser
2024-09-30 10:12                     ` Alan Huang
2024-09-30 11:26     ` Jonas Oberhauser
2024-09-30 16:43       ` Alan Stern
2024-09-30 17:05         ` Jonas Oberhauser
2024-09-30 18:53           ` Alan Stern
2024-10-01 17:11             ` David Laight
2024-10-01 22:57               ` 'Alan Stern'
2024-10-02  8:13                 ` David Laight
2024-10-02 14:14                   ` 'Alan Stern'
2024-10-02 15:24                     ` David Laight
2024-10-03  1:50                       ` 'Alan Stern'
2024-10-03 13:23                         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-10-03 17:07                           ` David Laight
2024-10-03 18:00                             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-10-07 11:54                           ` Jonas Oberhauser
2024-10-07 13:18                             ` David Laight [this message]
2024-10-07 13:21                               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-10-07 14:59                               ` Jonas Oberhauser
2024-09-28 23:24   ` Gary Guo
2024-09-29 10:36     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-09-28 13:51 ` [PATCH 2/2] Documentation: RCU: Refer to ptr_eq() Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-09-28 14:58   ` Alan Stern
2024-09-28 15:09     ` Mathieu Desnoyers

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