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From: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>
To: Nadav Amit <nadav.amit@gmail.com>, Nadav Amit <namit@vmware.com>
Cc: Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>, Yu Zhao <yuzhao@google.com>,
	Nick Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com>,
	"x86@kernel.org" <x86@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/5] mm: avoid unnecessary flush on change_huge_pmd()
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2021 11:44:36 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <435f41f2-ffd4-0278-9f26-fbe2c2c7545c@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <29E7E8A4-C400-40A5-ACEC-F15C976DDEE0@gmail.com>

On 10/26/21 10:44 AM, Nadav Amit wrote:
>> "If software on one logical processor writes to a page while software on
>> another logical processor concurrently clears the R/W flag in the
>> paging-structure entry that maps the page, execution on some processors may
>> result in the entry’s dirty flag being set (due to the write on the first
>> logical processor) and the entry’s R/W flag being clear (due to the update
>> to the entry on the second logical processor). This will never occur on a
>> processor that supports control-flow enforcement technology (CET)”
>>
>> So I guess that this optimization can only be enabled when CET is enabled.
>>
>> :(
> I still wonder whether the SDM comment applies to present bit vs dirty
> bit atomicity as well.

I think it's implicit.  From "4.8 ACCESSED AND DIRTY FLAGS":

	"Whenever there is a write to a linear address, the processor
	 sets the dirty flag (if it is not already set) in the paging-
	 structure entry"

There can't be a "write to a linear address" without a Present=1 PTE.
If it were a Dirty=1,Present=1 PTE, there's no race because there might
not be a write to the PTE at all.

There's also this from the "4.10.4.3 Optional Invalidation" section:

	"no TLB entry or paging-structure cache entry is created with
	 information from a paging-structure entry in which the P flag
 	 is 0."

That means that we don't have to worry about the TLB doing something
bonkers like caching a Dirty=1 bit from a Present=0 PTE.

Is that what you were worried about?


  reply	other threads:[~2021-10-26 18:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-10-21 12:21 [PATCH v2 0/5] mm/mprotect: avoid unnecessary TLB flushes Nadav Amit
2021-10-21 12:21 ` [PATCH v2 1/5] x86: Detection of Knights Landing A/D leak Nadav Amit
2021-10-26 15:54   ` Dave Hansen
2021-10-26 15:57     ` Nadav Amit
2021-10-21 12:21 ` [PATCH v2 2/5] mm: avoid unnecessary flush on change_huge_pmd() Nadav Amit
2021-10-25 10:52   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-10-25 16:29     ` Nadav Amit
2021-10-26 16:06   ` Dave Hansen
2021-10-26 16:47     ` Nadav Amit
2021-10-26 16:53       ` Nadav Amit
2021-10-26 17:44       ` Nadav Amit
2021-10-26 18:44         ` Dave Hansen [this message]
2021-10-26 19:06           ` Nadav Amit
2021-10-26 19:40             ` Dave Hansen
2021-10-26 20:07               ` Nadav Amit
2021-10-26 20:47                 ` Dave Hansen
2021-10-21 12:21 ` [PATCH v2 3/5] x86/mm: check exec permissions on fault Nadav Amit
2021-10-25 10:59   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-10-25 11:13     ` Andrew Cooper
2021-10-25 14:23     ` Dave Hansen
2021-10-25 14:20   ` Dave Hansen
2021-10-25 16:19     ` Nadav Amit
2021-10-25 17:45       ` Dave Hansen
2021-10-25 17:51         ` Nadav Amit
2021-10-25 18:00           ` Dave Hansen
2021-10-21 12:21 ` [PATCH v2 4/5] mm/mprotect: use mmu_gather Nadav Amit
2021-10-21 12:21 ` [PATCH v2 5/5] mm/mprotect: do not flush on permission promotion Nadav Amit
2021-10-25 11:12   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-10-25 16:27     ` Nadav Amit
2021-10-22  3:04 ` [PATCH v2 0/5] mm/mprotect: avoid unnecessary TLB flushes Andrew Morton
2021-10-22 21:58   ` Nadav Amit
2021-10-26 16:09     ` Dave Hansen
2021-10-25 10:50   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-10-25 16:42     ` Nadav Amit

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