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From: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
To: Jerome Glisse <jglisse@redhat.com>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org, virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	peterx@redhat.com, linux-mm@kvack.org, aarcange@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH V2 5/5] vhost: access vq metadata through kernel virtual address
Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2019 16:58:44 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <43408100-84d9-a359-3e78-dc65fb7b0ad1@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190307191720.GF3835@redhat.com>


On 2019/3/8 上午3:17, Jerome Glisse wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 07, 2019 at 12:56:45PM -0500, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
>> On Thu, Mar 07, 2019 at 10:47:22AM -0500, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
>>> On Wed, Mar 06, 2019 at 02:18:12AM -0500, Jason Wang wrote:
>>>> +static const struct mmu_notifier_ops vhost_mmu_notifier_ops = {
>>>> +	.invalidate_range = vhost_invalidate_range,
>>>> +};
>>>> +
>>>>   void vhost_dev_init(struct vhost_dev *dev,
>>>>   		    struct vhost_virtqueue **vqs, int nvqs, int iov_limit)
>>>>   {
>>> I also wonder here: when page is write protected then
>>> it does not look like .invalidate_range is invoked.
>>>
>>> E.g. mm/ksm.c calls
>>>
>>> mmu_notifier_invalidate_range_start and
>>> mmu_notifier_invalidate_range_end but not mmu_notifier_invalidate_range.
>>>
>>> Similarly, rmap in page_mkclean_one will not call
>>> mmu_notifier_invalidate_range.
>>>
>>> If I'm right vhost won't get notified when page is write-protected since you
>>> didn't install start/end notifiers. Note that end notifier can be called
>>> with page locked, so it's not as straight-forward as just adding a call.
>>> Writing into a write-protected page isn't a good idea.
>>>
>>> Note that documentation says:
>>> 	it is fine to delay the mmu_notifier_invalidate_range
>>> 	call to mmu_notifier_invalidate_range_end() outside the page table lock.
>>> implying it's called just later.
>> OK I missed the fact that _end actually calls
>> mmu_notifier_invalidate_range internally. So that part is fine but the
>> fact that you are trying to take page lock under VQ mutex and take same
>> mutex within notifier probably means it's broken for ksm and rmap at
>> least since these call invalidate with lock taken.
>>
>> And generally, Andrea told me offline one can not take mutex under
>> the notifier callback. I CC'd Andrea for why.
> Correct, you _can not_ take mutex or any sleeping lock from within the
> invalidate_range callback as those callback happens under the page table
> spinlock. You can however do so under the invalidate_range_start call-
> back only if it is a blocking allow callback (there is a flag passdown
> with the invalidate_range_start callback if you are not allow to block
> then return EBUSY and the invalidation will be aborted).
>
>
>> That's a separate issue from set_page_dirty when memory is file backed.
> If you can access file back page then i suggest using set_page_dirty
> from within a special version of vunmap() so that when you vunmap you
> set the page dirty without taking page lock. It is safe to do so
> always from within an mmu notifier callback if you had the page map
> with write permission which means that the page had write permission
> in the userspace pte too and thus it having dirty pte is expected
> and calling set_page_dirty on the page is allowed without any lock.
> Locking will happen once the userspace pte are tear down through the
> page table lock.


Can I simply can set_page_dirty() before vunmap() in the mmu notifier 
callback, or is there any reason that it must be called within vumap()?

Thanks


>
>> It's because of all these issues that I preferred just accessing
>> userspace memory and handling faults. Unfortunately there does not
>> appear to exist an API that whitelists a specific driver along the lines
>> of "I checked this code for speculative info leaks, don't add barriers
>> on data path please".
> Maybe it would be better to explore adding such helper then remapping
> page into kernel address space ?
>
> Cheers,
> Jérôme


  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-03-08  8:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-03-06  7:18 [RFC PATCH V2 0/5] vhost: accelerate metadata access through vmap() Jason Wang
2019-03-06  7:18 ` [RFC PATCH V2 1/5] vhost: generalize adding used elem Jason Wang
2019-03-06  7:18 ` [RFC PATCH V2 2/5] vhost: fine grain userspace memory accessors Jason Wang
2019-03-06 10:45   ` Christophe de Dinechin
2019-03-07  2:38     ` Jason Wang
2019-03-06  7:18 ` [RFC PATCH V2 3/5] vhost: rename vq_iotlb_prefetch() to vq_meta_prefetch() Jason Wang
2019-03-06  7:18 ` [RFC PATCH V2 4/5] vhost: introduce helpers to get the size of metadata area Jason Wang
2019-03-06 10:56   ` Christophe de Dinechin
2019-03-07  2:40     ` Jason Wang
2019-03-06 18:43   ` Souptick Joarder
2019-03-07  2:42     ` Jason Wang
2019-03-06  7:18 ` [RFC PATCH V2 5/5] vhost: access vq metadata through kernel virtual address Jason Wang
2019-03-06 16:31   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-03-07  2:45     ` Jason Wang
2019-03-07 15:34       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-03-07 19:09         ` Jerome Glisse
2019-03-07 19:38           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2019-03-07 20:17             ` Jerome Glisse
2019-03-07 21:27               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2019-03-08  9:13                 ` Jason Wang
2019-03-08 19:11                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2019-03-11  7:21                     ` Jason Wang
2019-03-11 14:45                 ` Jan Kara
2019-03-08  8:31         ` Jason Wang
2019-03-07 15:47   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-03-07 17:56     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-03-07 19:16       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2019-03-08  8:50         ` Jason Wang
2019-03-08 14:58           ` Jerome Glisse
2019-03-11  7:18             ` Jason Wang
2019-03-08 19:48           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2019-03-08 20:06             ` Jerome Glisse
2019-03-11  7:40             ` Jason Wang
2019-03-11 12:48               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-03-11 13:43                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2019-03-12  2:56                   ` Jason Wang
2019-03-12  3:51                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-03-12  2:52                 ` Jason Wang
2019-03-12  3:50                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-03-12  7:15                     ` Jason Wang
2019-03-07 19:17       ` Jerome Glisse
2019-03-08  2:21         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-03-08  2:55           ` Jerome Glisse
2019-03-08  3:16             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-03-08  3:40               ` Jerome Glisse
2019-03-08  3:43                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-03-08  3:45                   ` Jerome Glisse
2019-03-08  9:15                     ` Jason Wang
2019-03-08  8:58         ` Jason Wang [this message]
2019-03-08 12:56           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-03-08 15:02             ` Jerome Glisse
2019-03-08 19:13           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2019-03-08 14:12 ` [RFC PATCH V2 0/5] vhost: accelerate metadata access through vmap() Christoph Hellwig
2019-03-11  7:13   ` Jason Wang
2019-03-11 13:59     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-03-11 18:14       ` David Miller
2019-03-12  2:59         ` Jason Wang
2019-03-12  3:52           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-03-12  7:17             ` Jason Wang
2019-03-12 11:54               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-03-12 15:46                 ` James Bottomley
2019-03-12 20:04                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2019-03-12 20:53                     ` James Bottomley
2019-03-12 21:11                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2019-03-12 21:19                         ` James Bottomley
2019-03-12 21:53                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2019-03-12 22:02                             ` James Bottomley
2019-03-12 22:50                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2019-03-12 22:57                                 ` James Bottomley
2019-03-13 16:05                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-03-13 16:37                         ` James Bottomley
2019-03-14 10:42                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-03-14 13:49                             ` Jason Wang
2019-03-14 19:33                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2019-03-15  4:39                                 ` Jason Wang
2019-03-12  5:14           ` James Bottomley
2019-03-12  7:51             ` Jason Wang
2019-03-12  7:53               ` Jason Wang

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