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From: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>,
	Linux Memory Management <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2.6.13] lockless pagecache 2/7
Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2005 11:03:13 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <431CEAD1.9080007@yahoo.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1125822018.23858.2.camel@localhost.localdomain>

Alan Cox wrote:
> On Sul, 2005-09-04 at 11:01 +1000, Nick Piggin wrote:
> 
>>I would be surprised if it was a big loss... but I'm assuming
>>a locked cmpxchg isn't outlandishly expensive. Basically:
>>
>>   read_lock_irqsave(cacheline1);
>>   atomic_inc_return(cacheline2);
>>   read_unlock_irqrestore(cacheline1);
>>
>>Turns into
>>
>>   atomic_cmpxchg();
>>
>>I'll do some microbenchmarks and get back to you. I'm quite
>>interested now ;) What sort of AMDs did you have in mind,
> 
> 
> 
> Athlon or higher give very different atomic numbers to P4. If you are
> losing the read_lock/unlock then the atomic_cmpxchg should be faster on
> all I agree.
> 

Phew! I'll test them anyway, however.

> One question however - atomic_foo operations are not store barriers so
> you might need mb() and friends for PPC ?
> 

Dave's documented that nicely in Documentation/atomic_ops.txt

In general, atomic ops that do not return a value are not barriers,
while operations that do return a value are.

So I think we can define the atomic_cmpxchg as providing a barrier.

Thanks,
Nick

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  reply	other threads:[~2005-09-06  1:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-09-02  6:25 New lockless pagecache Nick Piggin
2005-09-02  6:28 ` [PATCH 2.6.13] lockless pagecache 1/7 Nick Piggin
2005-09-02  6:29   ` [PATCH 2.6.13] lockless pagecache 2/7 Nick Piggin
2005-09-02  6:30     ` [PATCH 2.6.13] lockless pagecache 3/7 Nick Piggin
2005-09-02  6:30       ` [PATCH 2.6.13] lockless pagecache 4/7 Nick Piggin
2005-09-02  6:31         ` [PATCH 2.6.13] lockless pagecache 5/7 Nick Piggin
2005-09-02  6:32           ` [PATCH 2.6.13] lockless pagecache 6/7 Nick Piggin
2005-09-02  6:32             ` [PATCH 2.6.13] lockless pagecache 7/7 Nick Piggin
2005-09-09 13:00               ` Christoph Lameter
2005-09-09 15:23                 ` Nick Piggin
2005-09-09  5:36           ` [PATCH 2.6.13] lockless pagecache 5/7 Christoph Lameter
2005-09-09  6:22             ` Nick Piggin
2005-09-02 13:08     ` [PATCH 2.6.13] lockless pagecache 2/7 Alan Cox
2005-09-02 20:41       ` Andi Kleen
2005-09-02 21:12         ` David S. Miller, Andi Kleen
2005-09-02 21:43           ` Nick Piggin
2005-09-02 21:22         ` Nick Piggin
2005-09-02 21:31           ` David S. Miller, Nick Piggin
2005-09-02 21:47             ` Nick Piggin
2005-09-02 21:57               ` David S. Miller, Nick Piggin
2005-09-02 23:57           ` Alan Cox
2005-09-03  1:40             ` Nick Piggin
2005-09-03 17:31               ` Alan Cox
2005-09-04  1:01                 ` Nick Piggin
2005-09-04  8:20                   ` Alan Cox
2005-09-06  1:03                     ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2005-09-02 18:26     ` Christoph Lameter
2005-09-02 21:26       ` Nick Piggin
2005-09-03  1:33         ` Christoph Lameter
2005-09-02  6:45 ` New lockless pagecache Nick Piggin
2005-09-15 19:50   ` Alok kataria
2005-09-16  3:12     ` Nick Piggin

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