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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Dev Jain <dev.jain@arm.com>, Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, ryan.roberts@arm.com,
	anshuman.khandual@arm.com, baohua@kernel.org, hughd@google.com,
	ioworker0@gmail.com, wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com,
	baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com, gshan@redhat.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: Compute mTHP order efficiently
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2024 12:12:05 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <42d6f3db-33db-4475-97e3-fbd28ea131ea@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <091f517d-e7dc-4c10-b1ac-39658f31f0ed@arm.com>

On 17.09.24 05:55, Dev Jain wrote:
> 
> On 9/16/24 18:54, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
>> On Fri, Sep 13, 2024 at 02:49:02PM +0530, Dev Jain wrote:
>>> We use pte_range_none() to determine whether contiguous PTEs are empty
>>> for an mTHP allocation. Instead of iterating the while loop for every
>>> order, use some information, which is the first set PTE found, from the
>>> previous iteration, to eliminate some cases. The key to understanding
>>> the correctness of the patch is that the ranges we want to examine
>>> form a strictly decreasing sequence of nested intervals.
>> This is a lot more complicated.  Do you have any numbers that indicate
>> that it's faster?  Yes, it's fewer memory references, but you've gone
>> from a simple linear scan that's easy to prefetch to an exponential scan
>> that might confuse the prefetchers.
> 
> I do have some numbers, I tested with a simple program, and also used
> ktime API, with the latter, enclosing from "order = highest_order(orders)"
> till "pte_unmap(pte)" (enclosing the entire while loop), a rough average
> estimate is that without the patch, it takes 1700 ns to execute, with the
> patch, on an average it takes 80 - 100ns less. I cannot think of a good
> testing program...

And that is likely what Willy is actually wondering about: does it have 
any real world impact or is the benefit just noise. :)

Change does not look too wild to me, but yes, it increases complexity.

-- 
Cheers,

David / dhildenb



      parent reply	other threads:[~2024-09-17 10:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-09-13  9:19 Dev Jain
2024-09-16  5:12 ` Barry Song
2024-09-16  5:20   ` Dev Jain
2024-09-16  5:58     ` Barry Song
2024-09-16 13:24 ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-09-17  3:35   ` Lance Yang
2024-09-17  5:35     ` Barry Song
2024-09-17  3:55   ` Dev Jain
2024-09-17  8:29     ` Ryan Roberts
2024-09-17  8:44       ` Barry Song
2024-09-17  8:54         ` Ryan Roberts
2024-09-17  9:09           ` Barry Song
2024-09-17 10:19             ` Ryan Roberts
2024-09-17 10:12     ` David Hildenbrand [this message]

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