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From: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
To: Russell King <rmk+lkml@arm.linux.org.uk>
Cc: ncunningham@cyclades.com, Daniel Phillips <phillips@arcor.de>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Memory Management <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Hugh Dickins <hugh@veritas.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>,
	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC][patch 0/2] mm: remove PageReserved
Date: Tue, 09 Aug 2005 19:29:30 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <42F8777A.2090609@yahoo.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050809080853.A25492@flint.arm.linux.org.uk>

Russell King wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 09, 2005 at 02:59:53PM +1000, Nick Piggin wrote:
> 
>>That would work for swsusp, but there are other users that want to
>>know if a struct page is valid ram (eg. ioremap), so in that case
>>swsusp would not be able to mess with the flag.
> 
> 
> The usage of "valid ram" here is confusing - that's not what PageReserved
> is all about.  It's about valid RAM which is managed by method other
> than the usual page counting.  Non-reserved RAM is also valid RAM, but
> is managed by the kernel in the usual way.
> 

Well that is one usage of the PageReserved flag. That one tends
to be easily covered by VM_RESERVED (ie. it is no longer used that
way after the patches).

The remaining problem is, in fact, these "other" uses of PageReserved.
One usage definitely appears to be "is this page valid RAM?".

> The former is available for remap_pfn_range and ioremap, the latter is
> not.
> 

I thought ioremap was attempting to avoid remapping physical
RAM with that check. All drivers I have looked at which allocate
physical memory then SetPageReserved the pages use remap_pfn_range
but I admit that's not a huge number (that I have looked at).

> On the other hand, the validity of an apparant RAM address can only be
> tested using its pfn with pfn_valid().
> 

I'm fairly sure that's not the case on i386 at least. I think
pfn_valid will be true if the pfn points to a struct page.
See arch/i386/mm/init.c:one_highpage_init()

> Can we straighten out the terminology so it's less confusing please?
> 

That's what I'm aiming for. I admit it is confusing and I haven't
looked at all drivers or architectures, so if I'm missing a vital
clue then I wouldn't be too surprised ;)

Nick

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-08-09  9:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 91+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-08-07  3:28 Nick Piggin
2005-08-07  3:29 ` [patch 1/2] mm: remap ZERO_PAGE mappings Nick Piggin
2005-08-07  3:30   ` [patch 2/2] mm: core remove PageReserved Nick Piggin
2005-08-08 21:09 ` [RFC][patch 0/2] mm: " Daniel Phillips
2005-08-08 21:24   ` Daniel Phillips
2005-08-08 21:54     ` Andrew Morton
2005-08-09 23:23       ` [RFC][PATCH] Rename PageChecked as PageMiscFS Daniel Phillips
2005-08-10  7:48         ` Hugh Dickins
2005-08-10  8:06           ` Daniel Phillips
2005-08-10 22:12       ` Daniel Phillips
2005-08-10 22:23         ` Daniel Phillips
2005-08-10 22:34           ` Trond Myklebust
2005-08-10 22:57             ` Daniel Phillips
2005-08-10 23:23               ` Trond Myklebust
2005-08-11  9:42               ` David Howells
2005-08-10 23:42           ` Adrian Bunk
2005-08-11  9:46           ` David Howells
2005-08-12  2:34             ` Daniel Phillips
2005-08-12 12:32             ` David Howells
2005-08-11  9:31         ` David Howells
2005-08-11  9:26       ` David Howells
2005-08-12  3:29         ` Daniel Phillips
2005-08-12 12:41         ` David Howells
2005-08-12 13:28           ` Hugh Dickins
2005-08-16 13:59           ` Pavel Machek
2005-08-18 14:33           ` David Howells
2005-08-18 22:27             ` Pavel Machek
2005-08-19 10:04             ` David Howells
2005-08-19 16:31               ` Daniel Phillips
2005-08-20 10:45               ` David Howells
2005-08-20 20:21                 ` Daniel Phillips
2005-08-10 13:13     ` [RFC][patch 0/2] mm: remove PageReserved David Howells
2005-08-10 13:34       ` Daniel Phillips
2005-08-10 14:27       ` David Howells
2005-08-10 23:19         ` Daniel Phillips
2005-08-11 10:49         ` David Howells
2005-08-12 19:34           ` Daniel Phillips
2005-08-15 13:15           ` David Howells
2005-08-16  1:53             ` Daniel Phillips
2005-08-16 10:28             ` David Howells
2005-08-09  0:15   ` Nick Piggin
2005-08-09  8:51     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-08-09  9:49       ` Nick Piggin
2005-08-09 19:19         ` Daniel Phillips
2005-08-09 19:22         ` Daniel Phillips
2005-08-10 21:50           ` Pavel Machek
2005-08-10 21:56             ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-08-11 10:36               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2005-08-12 19:56                 ` Daniel Phillips
2005-08-12 22:20                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2005-08-12 23:04                     ` Daniel Phillips
2005-08-13  7:06                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2005-08-11 10:26             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2005-08-09 11:25       ` Hugh Dickins
2005-08-09 14:31         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-08-09 14:50           ` Hugh Dickins
2005-08-09 14:49             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-08-09 15:36               ` Hugh Dickins
2005-08-09 21:27                 ` Daniel Phillips
2005-08-09 19:14     ` Daniel Phillips
2005-08-09 20:17       ` Hugh Dickins
2005-08-09 20:52         ` Daniel Phillips
2005-08-09  4:39   ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-08-09  4:59     ` Nick Piggin
2005-08-09  5:11       ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-08-09  5:20         ` Nick Piggin
2005-08-09  5:30           ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-08-09  7:08       ` Russell King
2005-08-09  8:38         ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-08-09  9:31           ` Nick Piggin
2005-08-09  9:49             ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-08-09  9:57               ` Nick Piggin
2005-08-09 10:24             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2005-08-09  8:53         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-08-09  9:15         ` Hugh Dickins
2005-08-09 10:27           ` Nick Piggin
2005-08-09 11:15             ` Hugh Dickins
2005-08-09 13:15               ` Nick Piggin
2005-08-09 13:26                 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-08-09 14:28               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-08-09 14:47                 ` Hugh Dickins
2005-08-09 19:49           ` Roman Zippel
2005-08-09  9:29         ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2005-08-09 19:40           ` Russell King
2005-08-09 14:38         ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-08-09 19:41           ` Russell King
2005-08-09 20:51             ` Linus Torvalds
2005-08-09 21:16             ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-08-09 21:51               ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-08-10  9:27             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-08-11  9:09               ` Nick Piggin

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