From: Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>
To: "David Hildenbrand" <david@redhat.com>,
"Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@redhat.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v6 9/9] page_pool: access ->pp_magic through struct netmem_desc in page_pool_page_is_pp()
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2025 11:25:40 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <42E9BEA8-9B02-440F-94BF-74393827B01E@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a8d40a05-db4c-400f-839b-3c6159a1feab@redhat.com>
On 23 Jun 2025, at 10:58, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> On 23.06.25 13:13, Zi Yan wrote:
>> On 23 Jun 2025, at 6:16, Byungchul Park wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 23, 2025 at 11:16:43AM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>>>> On 20.06.25 06:12, Byungchul Park wrote:
>>>>> To simplify struct page, the effort to separate its own descriptor from
>>>>> struct page is required and the work for page pool is on going.
>>>>>
>>>>> To achieve that, all the code should avoid directly accessing page pool
>>>>> members of struct page.
>>>>>
>>>>> Access ->pp_magic through struct netmem_desc instead of directly
>>>>> accessing it through struct page in page_pool_page_is_pp(). Plus, move
>>>>> page_pool_page_is_pp() from mm.h to netmem.h to use struct netmem_desc
>>>>> without header dependency issue.
>>>>>
>>>>> Signed-off-by: Byungchul Park <byungchul@sk.com>
>>>>> Reviewed-by: Toke Høiland-Jørgensen <toke@redhat.com>
>>>>> Reviewed-by: Mina Almasry <almasrymina@google.com>
>>>>> Reviewed-by: Pavel Begunkov <asml.silence@gmail.com>
>>>>> Reviewed-by: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
>>>>> Acked-by: Harry Yoo <harry.yoo@oracle.com>
>>>>> ---
>>>>> include/linux/mm.h | 12 ------------
>>>>> include/net/netmem.h | 14 ++++++++++++++
>>>>> mm/page_alloc.c | 1 +
>>>>> 3 files changed, 15 insertions(+), 12 deletions(-)
>>>>>
>>>>> diff --git a/include/linux/mm.h b/include/linux/mm.h
>>>>> index 0ef2ba0c667a..0b7f7f998085 100644
>>>>> --- a/include/linux/mm.h
>>>>> +++ b/include/linux/mm.h
>>>>> @@ -4172,16 +4172,4 @@ int arch_lock_shadow_stack_status(struct task_struct *t, unsigned long status);
>>>>> */
>>>>> #define PP_MAGIC_MASK ~(PP_DMA_INDEX_MASK | 0x3UL)
>>>>>
>>>>> -#ifdef CONFIG_PAGE_POOL
>>>>> -static inline bool page_pool_page_is_pp(struct page *page)
>>>>> -{
>>>>> - return (page->pp_magic & PP_MAGIC_MASK) == PP_SIGNATURE;
>>>>> -}
>>>>> -#else
>>>>> -static inline bool page_pool_page_is_pp(struct page *page)
>>>>> -{
>>>>> - return false;
>>>>> -}
>>>>> -#endif
>>>>> -
>>>>> #endif /* _LINUX_MM_H */
>>>>> diff --git a/include/net/netmem.h b/include/net/netmem.h
>>>>> index d49ed49d250b..3d1b1dfc9ba5 100644
>>>>> --- a/include/net/netmem.h
>>>>> +++ b/include/net/netmem.h
>>>>> @@ -56,6 +56,20 @@ NETMEM_DESC_ASSERT_OFFSET(pp_ref_count, pp_ref_count);
>>>>> */
>>>>> static_assert(sizeof(struct netmem_desc) <= offsetof(struct page, _refcount));
>>>>>
>>>>> +#ifdef CONFIG_PAGE_POOL
>>>>> +static inline bool page_pool_page_is_pp(struct page *page)
>>>>> +{
>>>>> + struct netmem_desc *desc = (struct netmem_desc *)page;
>>>>> +
>>>>> + return (desc->pp_magic & PP_MAGIC_MASK) == PP_SIGNATURE;
>>>>> +}
>>>>> +#else
>>>>> +static inline bool page_pool_page_is_pp(struct page *page)
>>>>> +{
>>>>> + return false;
>>>>> +}
>>>>> +#endif
>>>>
>>>> I wonder how helpful this cleanup is long-term.
>>>>
>>>> page_pool_page_is_pp() is only called from mm/page_alloc.c, right?
>>>
>>> Yes.
>>>
>>>> There, we want to make sure that no pagepool page is ever returned to
>>>> the buddy.
>>>>
>>>> How reasonable is this sanity check to have long-term? Wouldn't we be
>>>> able to check that on some higher-level freeing path?
>>>>
>>>> The reason I am commenting is that once we decouple "struct page" from
>>>> "struct netmem_desc", we'd have to lookup here the corresponding "struct
>>>> netmem_desc".
>>>>
>>>> ... but at that point here (when we free the actual pages), the "struct
>>>> netmem_desc" would likely already have been freed separately (remember:
>>>> it will be dynamically allocated).
>>>>
>>>> With that in mind:
>>>>
>>>> 1) Is there a higher level "struct netmem_desc" freeing path where we
>>>> could check that instead, so we don't have to cast from pages to
>>>> netmem_desc at all.
>>>
>>> I also thought it's too paranoiac. However, I thought it's other issue
>>> than this work. That's why I left the API as is for now, it can be gone
>>> once we get convinced the check is unnecessary in deep buddy. Wrong?
>>>
>>>> 2) How valuable are these sanity checks deep in the buddy?
>>>
>>> That was also what I felt weird on.
>>
>> It seems very useful when I asked last time[1]:
>>
>> |> We have actually used this at Cloudflare to catch some page_pool bugs.
>
> My question is rather, whether there is some higher-level freeing path for netmem_desc where we could check that instead (IOW, earlier).
>
> Or is it really arbitrary put_page() (IOW, we assume that many possible references can be held)?
+Toke, who I talked about this last time.
Maybe he can shed some light on it.
--
Best Regards,
Yan, Zi
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-06-23 15:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-06-20 4:12 [PATCH net-next v6 0/9] Split netmem from struct page Byungchul Park
2025-06-20 4:12 ` [PATCH net-next v6 1/9] netmem: introduce struct netmem_desc mirroring " Byungchul Park
2025-06-23 9:32 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-23 10:28 ` Byungchul Park
2025-06-23 10:38 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-23 12:18 ` Harry Yoo
2025-06-23 19:09 ` Mina Almasry
2025-06-23 19:28 ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-06-24 1:17 ` Byungchul Park
2025-06-20 4:12 ` [PATCH net-next v6 2/9] page_pool: rename page_pool_return_page() to page_pool_return_netmem() Byungchul Park
2025-06-20 4:12 ` [PATCH net-next v6 3/9] page_pool: rename __page_pool_release_page_dma() to __page_pool_release_netmem_dma() Byungchul Park
2025-06-20 4:12 ` [PATCH net-next v6 4/9] page_pool: rename __page_pool_alloc_pages_slow() to __page_pool_alloc_netmems_slow() Byungchul Park
2025-06-20 4:12 ` [PATCH net-next v6 5/9] netmem: use _Generic to cover const casting for page_to_netmem() Byungchul Park
2025-06-20 4:12 ` [PATCH net-next v6 6/9] netmem: remove __netmem_get_pp() Byungchul Park
2025-06-23 4:32 ` Byungchul Park
2025-06-24 0:17 ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-06-24 1:27 ` Byungchul Park
2025-06-20 4:12 ` [PATCH net-next v6 7/9] page_pool: make page_pool_get_dma_addr() just wrap page_pool_get_dma_addr_netmem() Byungchul Park
2025-06-20 4:12 ` [PATCH net-next v6 8/9] netmem: introduce a netmem API, virt_to_head_netmem() Byungchul Park
2025-06-20 4:12 ` [PATCH net-next v6 9/9] page_pool: access ->pp_magic through struct netmem_desc in page_pool_page_is_pp() Byungchul Park
2025-06-23 9:16 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-23 10:16 ` Byungchul Park
2025-06-23 11:13 ` Zi Yan
2025-06-23 11:25 ` Byungchul Park
2025-06-23 14:58 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-23 15:25 ` Zi Yan [this message]
2025-06-24 14:43 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2025-06-24 14:56 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-25 1:24 ` Byungchul Park
2025-06-26 6:35 ` Byungchul Park
2025-06-23 17:06 ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-06-23 17:28 ` Mina Almasry
2025-06-23 18:09 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-06-23 18:14 ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-06-24 1:54 ` Byungchul Park
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