From: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
To: William Lee Irwin III <wli@holomorphy.com>
Cc: linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Linux Memory Management <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: [patch 2] mm: speculative get_page
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 10:03:00 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <42C093B4.3010707@yahoo.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050627141220.GM3334@holomorphy.com>
William Lee Irwin III wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 27, 2005 at 04:32:38PM +1000, Nick Piggin wrote:
>
>>+static inline struct page *page_cache_get_speculative(struct page **pagep)
>>+{
>>+ struct page *page;
>>+
>>+ preempt_disable();
>>+ page = *pagep;
>>+ if (!page)
>>+ goto out_failed;
>>+
>>+ if (unlikely(get_page_testone(page))) {
>>+ /* Picked up a freed page */
>>+ __put_page(page);
>>+ goto out_failed;
>>+ }
>
>
> So you pick up 0->1 refcount transitions.
>
Yep ie. a page that's freed or being freed.
>
> On Mon, Jun 27, 2005 at 04:32:38PM +1000, Nick Piggin wrote:
>
>>+ /*
>>+ * preempt can really be enabled here (only needs to be disabled
>>+ * because page allocation can spin on the elevated refcount, but
>>+ * we don't want to hold a reference on an unrelated page for too
>>+ * long, so keep preempt off until we know we have the right page
>>+ */
>>+
>>+ if (unlikely(PageFreeing(page)) ||
>
>
> SetPageFreeing is only done in shrink_list(), so other pages in the
> buddy bitmaps and/or pagecache pages freed by other methods may not
It is also done by remove_exclusive_swap_page, although that hunk
leaked into a later patch (#5), sorry.
Other methods (eg truncate) don't seem to have an atomicity guarantee
anyway - ie. it is valid to pick up a reference on a page that is
just about to get truncated. PageFreeing is only used when some code
is making an assumption about the number of users of the page.
> be found by this. There's also likely trouble with higher-order pages.
>
There isn't because higher order pages aren't used for pagecache.
>
> On Mon, Jun 27, 2005 at 04:32:38PM +1000, Nick Piggin wrote:
>
>>+ unlikely(page != *pagep)) {
>>+ /* Picked up a page being freed, or one that's been reused */
>>+ put_page(page);
>>+ goto out_failed;
>>+ }
>>+ preempt_enable();
>>+
>>+ return page;
>>+
>>+out_failed:
>>+ preempt_enable();
>>+ return NULL;
>>+}
>
>
> page != *pagep won't be reliably tripped unless the pagecache
> modification has the appropriate memory barriers.
>
There are appropriate memory barriers: the radix tree is
modified uner the rwlock/spinlock, and this function has
a memory barrier before testing page != *pagep.
> The lockless radix tree lookups are a harder problem than this, and
> the implementation didn't look promising. I have other problems to deal
> with so I'm not going to go very far into this.
>
What's wrong with the lockless radix tree lookups?
> While I agree that locklessness is the right direction for the
> pagecache to go, this RFC seems to have too far to go to use it to
> conclude anything about the subject.
>
You don't seem to have looked enough to conclude anything about it.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-06-28 0:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-06-27 6:29 [rfc] lockless pagecache Nick Piggin
2005-06-27 6:32 ` [patch 1] mm: PG_free flag Nick Piggin
2005-06-27 6:32 ` [patch 2] mm: speculative get_page Nick Piggin
2005-06-27 6:33 ` [patch 3] radix tree: lookup_slot Nick Piggin
2005-06-27 6:34 ` [patch 4] radix tree: lockless readside Nick Piggin
2005-06-27 6:34 ` [patch 5] mm: lockless pagecache lookups Nick Piggin
2005-06-27 6:35 ` [patch 6] mm: spinlock tree_lock Nick Piggin
2005-06-27 14:12 ` [patch 2] mm: speculative get_page William Lee Irwin III
2005-06-28 0:03 ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2005-06-28 0:56 ` Nick Piggin
2005-06-28 1:22 ` William Lee Irwin III
2005-06-28 1:42 ` Nick Piggin
2005-06-28 4:06 ` William Lee Irwin III
2005-06-28 4:50 ` Nick Piggin
2005-06-28 5:08 ` [patch 2] mm: speculative get_page, " David S. Miller, Nick Piggin
2005-06-28 5:34 ` Nick Piggin
2005-06-28 14:19 ` William Lee Irwin III
2005-06-28 15:43 ` Nick Piggin
2005-06-28 17:01 ` Christoph Lameter
2005-06-28 23:10 ` Nick Piggin
2005-06-28 21:32 ` Jesse Barnes
2005-06-28 22:17 ` Christoph Lameter
2005-06-28 12:45 ` Andy Whitcroft
2005-06-28 13:16 ` Nick Piggin
2005-06-28 16:02 ` Dave Hansen
2005-06-29 16:31 ` Pavel Machek
2005-06-29 18:43 ` Dave Hansen
2005-06-29 21:22 ` Pavel Machek
2005-06-29 16:31 ` Pavel Machek
2005-06-27 6:43 ` VFS scalability (was: [rfc] lockless pagecache) Nick Piggin
2005-06-27 7:13 ` Andi Kleen
2005-06-27 7:33 ` VFS scalability Nick Piggin
2005-06-27 7:44 ` Andi Kleen
2005-06-27 8:03 ` Nick Piggin
2005-06-27 7:46 ` [rfc] lockless pagecache Andrew Morton
2005-06-27 8:02 ` Nick Piggin
2005-06-27 8:15 ` Andrew Morton
2005-06-27 8:28 ` Nick Piggin
2005-06-27 8:56 ` Lincoln Dale
2005-06-27 9:04 ` Nick Piggin
2005-06-27 18:14 ` Chen, Kenneth W
2005-06-27 18:50 ` Badari Pulavarty
2005-06-27 19:05 ` Chen, Kenneth W
2005-06-27 19:22 ` Christoph Lameter
2005-06-27 19:42 ` Chen, Kenneth W
2005-07-05 15:11 ` Sonny Rao
2005-07-05 15:31 ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-07-05 15:37 ` Sonny Rao
2005-06-27 13:17 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2005-06-28 0:32 ` Nick Piggin
2005-06-28 1:26 ` William Lee Irwin III
2005-06-27 14:08 ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-06-27 17:49 ` Christoph Lameter
2005-06-29 10:49 ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2005-06-29 11:38 ` Nick Piggin
2005-06-30 3:32 ` Hirokazu Takahashi
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