From: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [rfc] lockless pagecache
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 18:02:15 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <42BFB287.5060104@yahoo.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050627004624.53f0415e.akpm@osdl.org>
Andrew Morton wrote:
> Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>
>>First I'll put up some numbers to get you interested - of a 64-way Altix
>> with 64 processes each read-faulting in their own 512MB part of a 32GB
>> file that is preloaded in pagecache (with the proper NUMA memory
>> allocation).
>
>
> I bet you can get a 5x to 10x reduction in ->tree_lock traffic by doing
> 16-page faultahead.
>
>
Definitely, for the microbenchmark I was testing with.
However I think for Oracle and others that use shared memory like
this, they are probably not doing linear access, so that would be a
net loss. I'm not completely sure (I don't have access to real loads
at the moment), but I would have thought those guys would have looked
into fault ahead if it were a possibility.
Also, the memory usage regression cases that fault ahead brings makes it
a bit contentious.
I like that the lockless patch completely removes the problem at its
source and even makes the serial path lighter. The other things is, the
speculative get_page may be useful for more code than just pagecache
lookups. But it is fairly tricky I'll give you that.
Anyway it is obviously not something that can go in tomorrow. At the
very least the PageReserved patches need to go in first, and even they
will need a lot of testing out of tree.
Perhaps it can be discussed at KS and we can think about what to do with
it after that - that kind of time frame. No rush.
Oh yeah, and obviously it would be nice if it provided real improvements
on real workloads too ;)
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-06-27 8:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-06-27 6:29 Nick Piggin
2005-06-27 6:32 ` [patch 1] mm: PG_free flag Nick Piggin
2005-06-27 6:32 ` [patch 2] mm: speculative get_page Nick Piggin
2005-06-27 6:33 ` [patch 3] radix tree: lookup_slot Nick Piggin
2005-06-27 6:34 ` [patch 4] radix tree: lockless readside Nick Piggin
2005-06-27 6:34 ` [patch 5] mm: lockless pagecache lookups Nick Piggin
2005-06-27 6:35 ` [patch 6] mm: spinlock tree_lock Nick Piggin
2005-06-27 14:12 ` [patch 2] mm: speculative get_page William Lee Irwin III
2005-06-28 0:03 ` Nick Piggin
2005-06-28 0:56 ` Nick Piggin
2005-06-28 1:22 ` William Lee Irwin III
2005-06-28 1:42 ` Nick Piggin
2005-06-28 4:06 ` William Lee Irwin III
2005-06-28 4:50 ` Nick Piggin
2005-06-28 5:08 ` [patch 2] mm: speculative get_page, " David S. Miller, Nick Piggin
2005-06-28 5:34 ` Nick Piggin
2005-06-28 14:19 ` William Lee Irwin III
2005-06-28 15:43 ` Nick Piggin
2005-06-28 17:01 ` Christoph Lameter
2005-06-28 23:10 ` Nick Piggin
2005-06-28 21:32 ` Jesse Barnes
2005-06-28 22:17 ` Christoph Lameter
2005-06-28 12:45 ` Andy Whitcroft
2005-06-28 13:16 ` Nick Piggin
2005-06-28 16:02 ` Dave Hansen
2005-06-29 16:31 ` Pavel Machek
2005-06-29 18:43 ` Dave Hansen
2005-06-29 21:22 ` Pavel Machek
2005-06-29 16:31 ` Pavel Machek
2005-06-27 6:43 ` VFS scalability (was: [rfc] lockless pagecache) Nick Piggin
2005-06-27 7:13 ` Andi Kleen
2005-06-27 7:33 ` VFS scalability Nick Piggin
2005-06-27 7:44 ` Andi Kleen
2005-06-27 8:03 ` Nick Piggin
2005-06-27 7:46 ` [rfc] lockless pagecache Andrew Morton
2005-06-27 8:02 ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2005-06-27 8:15 ` Andrew Morton
2005-06-27 8:28 ` Nick Piggin
2005-06-27 8:56 ` Lincoln Dale
2005-06-27 9:04 ` Nick Piggin
2005-06-27 18:14 ` Chen, Kenneth W
2005-06-27 18:50 ` Badari Pulavarty
2005-06-27 19:05 ` Chen, Kenneth W
2005-06-27 19:22 ` Christoph Lameter
2005-06-27 19:42 ` Chen, Kenneth W
2005-07-05 15:11 ` Sonny Rao
2005-07-05 15:31 ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-07-05 15:37 ` Sonny Rao
2005-06-27 13:17 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2005-06-28 0:32 ` Nick Piggin
2005-06-28 1:26 ` William Lee Irwin III
2005-06-27 14:08 ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-06-27 17:49 ` Christoph Lameter
2005-06-29 10:49 ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2005-06-29 11:38 ` Nick Piggin
2005-06-30 3:32 ` Hirokazu Takahashi
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