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From: Alex Shi <alex.shi@linux.alibaba.com>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	Anshuman Khandual <anshuman.khandual@arm.com>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	Alexander Duyck <alexander.h.duyck@linux.intel.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/2] mm/pageblock: remove false sharing in pageblock_flags
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2020 16:36:36 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <420c8091-f0c7-f7e6-be95-85d81f877aae@linux.alibaba.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0dc33af2-4d2d-9531-03fa-d26654ab79fb@redhat.com>



在 2020/8/19 下午4:13, David Hildenbrand 写道:
> On 19.08.20 10:09, Alex Shi wrote:
>>
>>
>> 在 2020/8/19 下午3:57, Anshuman Khandual 写道:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 08/19/2020 11:17 AM, Alex Shi wrote:
>>>> Current pageblock_flags is only 4 bits, so it has to share a char size
>>>> in cmpxchg when get set, the false sharing cause perf drop.
>>>>
>>>> If we incrase the bits up to 8, false sharing would gone in cmpxchg. and
>>>> the only cost is half char per pageblock, which is half char per 128MB
>>>> on x86, 4 chars in 1 GB.
>>>
>>> Agreed that increase in memory utilization is negligible here but does
>>> this really improve performance ?
>>>
>>
>> It's no doubt in theory. and it would had a bad impact according to 
>> commit e380bebe4771548  mm, compaction: keep migration source private to a single 

The above commit is a good disproof, the false sharing caused performance issue,
and need using a lock protect cmpxchg, the instruction was designed for lockless
using. The false sharing, it was a trouble, and would trouble again sometime.

Thanks
Alex

>>
>> but I do have some problem in running thpscale/mmtest. I'd like to see if anyone
>> could give a try.
>>
>> BTW, I naturally hate the false sharing even it's in theory. Anyone who doesn't? :)
> 
> I hate wasting memory, even if it's just a little bit, anyone who
> doesn't? ;)
> 
> 


  reply	other threads:[~2020-08-19  8:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-08-19  5:47 [PATCH v2 1/2] mm/pageblock: mitigation cmpxchg false sharing in pageblock flags Alex Shi
2020-08-19  5:47 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] mm/pageblock: remove false sharing in pageblock_flags Alex Shi
2020-08-19  7:57   ` Anshuman Khandual
2020-08-19  8:09     ` Alex Shi
2020-08-19  8:13       ` David Hildenbrand
2020-08-19  8:36         ` Alex Shi [this message]
2020-08-19 16:50       ` Alexander Duyck
2020-08-30 10:00         ` Alex Shi
2020-08-30 20:32           ` Alexander Duyck
2020-09-03  5:35             ` Alex Shi
2020-09-01 17:04       ` Vlastimil Babka
2020-08-19  7:55 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] mm/pageblock: mitigation cmpxchg false sharing in pageblock flags Anshuman Khandual
2020-08-19  8:04   ` David Hildenbrand
2020-08-30 10:08     ` Alex Shi
2020-08-30 10:14   ` Alex Shi
2020-08-30 10:18     ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-08-31  8:40       ` Alex Shi

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