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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Zhang Yi <yi.zhang@huaweicloud.com>,
	Karol Wachowski <karol.wachowski@linux.intel.com>
Cc: tytso@mit.edu, adilger.kernel@dilger.ca, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Possible regression in pin_user_pages_fast() behavior after commit 7ac67301e82f ("ext4: enable large folio for regular file")
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2025 09:24:27 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <41f30998-e498-4c33-a4b4-99b9f7339fd7@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <610d89e2-6970-4924-824b-f27a2424979b@huaweicloud.com>

>> __split_huge_pmd_locked() contains that handling.
>>
>> We have to do that because we did not preallocate a page table we can just throw in.
>>
>> We could do that on this path instead: remap the PMD to be mapped by a PTE table. We'd have to preallocate a page table.
>>
>> That would avoid the do_pte_missing() below for such faults.
>>
>> that could be done later on top of this fix.
> 
> Yeah, thank you for the explanation! I have another question, just curious.
> Why do we have to fall back to installing the PTE table instead of creating
> a new anonymous large folio (2M) and setting a new leaf huge PMD?

Primarily because it would waste more memory for various use cases, on a 
factor of 512.

> 
>>
>>>     |     handle_pte_fault()  //
>>>     |      do_pte_missing()
>>>     |       do_fault()
>>>     |        do_read_fault() //FAULT_FLAG_WRITE is not set
>>>     |         finish_fault()
>>>     |          do_set_pmd() //install leaf pmd again, I think this is wrong!!!
>>>     |      do_wp_page() //copy private anno pages
>>>     <-    goto retry
>>>
>>> Due to an incorrectly large PMD set in do_read_fault(), follow_pmd_mask()
>>> always returns -EMLINK, causing an infinite loop. Under normal
>>> circumstances, I suppose it should fall back to do_wp_page(), which installs
>>> the anonymous page into the PTE. This is also why mappings smaller than 2MB
>>> do not trigger this issue. In addition, if you add FOLL_WRITE when calling
>>> pin_user_pages_fast(), it also will not trigger this issue becasue do_fault()
>>> will call do_cow_fault() to create anonymous pages.
>>>
>>> The above is my analysis, and I tried the following fix, which can solve
>>> the issue (I haven't done a full test yet). But I am not expert in the MM
>>> field, I might have missed something, and this needs to be reviewed by MM
>>> experts.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Yi.
>>>
>>> diff --git a/mm/memory.c b/mm/memory.c
>>> index 74b45e258323..64846a030a5b 100644
>>> --- a/mm/memory.c
>>> +++ b/mm/memory.c
>>> @@ -5342,6 +5342,10 @@ vm_fault_t do_set_pmd(struct vm_fault *vmf, struct folio *folio, struct page *pa
>>>        if (!thp_vma_suitable_order(vma, haddr, PMD_ORDER))
>>>            return ret;
>>>
>>> +    if (vmf->flags & (FAULT_FLAG_WRITE|FAULT_FLAG_UNSHARE) &&
>>> +        !pmd_write(*vmf->pmd))
>>> +        return ret;
>>
>> Likely we would want to make this depend on is_cow_mapping().
>>
>> /*
>>   * We're about to trigger CoW, so never map it through a PMD.
>>   */
>> if (is_cow_mapping(vma->vm_flags &&
>>      vmf->flags & (FAULT_FLAG_WRITE|FAULT_FLAG_UNSHARE)))
>>      return ret;
>>
> 
> Sure, adding a cow check would be better. I will send out an official patch.

Thanks!

-- 
Cheers

David / dhildenb



  reply	other threads:[~2025-10-23  7:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <ebe38d8f-0b09-47b8-9503-2d8e0585672a@huaweicloud.com>
     [not found] ` <20251020084736.591739-1-karol.wachowski@linux.intel.com>
2025-10-22  2:46   ` Zhang Yi
2025-10-22  8:30     ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-23  3:04       ` Zhang Yi
2025-10-23  7:24         ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2025-10-23  7:34           ` Zhang Yi

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