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From: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
To: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>,
	Hugh Dickins <hugh@veritas.com>,
	Linux Memory Management <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 0/10] alternate 4-level page tables patches
Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 08:24:11 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <41D471FB.1060805@yahoo.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20041222180748.GB9339@wotan.suse.de>

Andi Kleen wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 22, 2004 at 10:19:09PM +1100, Nick Piggin wrote:
> 
>>But the advantages I see in the source code are a) pud folding matches 
>>exactly
>>how pmd folding was done on 2 level architectures, and b) it doesn't touch
>>either of the "business ends" of the page table structure (ie. top most or
>>bottom most levels).  I think these two points give some (if only slight)
>>advantage in maintainability and consistency.
> 
> 
> Sure, but when it's merged then pml4_t (or p<whatever>_t) would be 
> the "business end", so it doesn't make much difference longer term.
> After all future linux coders will not really care what was in the
> past, just what is in the code at the time they hack on it.
> 

Yeah OK, raw-code wise the pml4 patch isn't much different. But the
conceptual intrusiveness of having the folding 'magic' in the top
level page table is a bit higher.

Also, pml4 does have some implementation intrusiveness by introducing
a new _way_ of folding the table, whereas pud folds in the same manner
as pmd.

> 
> 
>>If I can get the bulk of the architectures changed and tested, the arch
>>maintainers don't kick up too much fuss, it has a relatively trouble free 
>>run
>>in -mm, and Andrew and Linus are still happy to merge before 2.6.11, would 
>>you
>>be OK with the pud version (in principle)?
> 
> 
> I can't say I'm very enthusiastic about it (but more due to scheduling
> issues than technical issues). I don't see anything wrong with them by itself,
> but I also don't think they have any particular advantages over the
> pml4 version. But in the end the main thing I care about is that
> 4 level pagetables get in in some form, where exactly the
> new level is added and how it is named is secondary.
> 

So long as you are not completely against it, that is a good start ;)

> I would prefer if it happened sooner though because the work
> is not finished (the optimized walking is still needed),
> and i've been just waiting for getting merged and settled
> down a bit before continuing. 
> 

Yeah sure. I can also try to help with that (regardless of which patch
is merged).
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  reply	other threads:[~2004-12-30 21:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-12-18  6:55 Nick Piggin
2004-12-18  6:55 ` [PATCH 1/10] " Nick Piggin
2004-12-18  6:56   ` [PATCH 2/10] " Nick Piggin
2004-12-18  6:56     ` [PATCH 3/10] " Nick Piggin
2004-12-18  6:57       ` [PATCH 4/10] " Nick Piggin
2004-12-18  6:58         ` [PATCH 5/10] " Nick Piggin
2004-12-18  6:58           ` [PATCH 6/10] " Nick Piggin
2004-12-18  6:59             ` [PATCH 7/10] " Nick Piggin
2004-12-18  7:00               ` [PATCH 8/10] " Nick Piggin
2004-12-18  7:00                 ` [PATCH 9/10] " Nick Piggin
2004-12-18  7:01                   ` [PATCH 10/10] " Nick Piggin
2004-12-18  7:31                     ` Andi Kleen
2004-12-18  7:46                       ` Nick Piggin
2004-12-18  8:08                       ` Andrew Morton
2004-12-18  9:48                         ` Andi Kleen
2004-12-18 19:06                       ` Linus Torvalds
2004-12-20 17:43                         ` Andi Kleen
2004-12-20 17:47                           ` Randy.Dunlap
2004-12-20 18:08                           ` Linus Torvalds
2004-12-20 18:15                             ` Linus Torvalds
2004-12-20 18:19                             ` Andi Kleen
2004-12-20 18:47                               ` Linus Torvalds
2004-12-20 18:52                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-12-20 18:59                                 ` Andi Kleen
2004-12-20 18:57                                   ` Randy.Dunlap
2004-12-18  9:05         ` [PATCH 4/10] " Nick Piggin
2004-12-18  9:50           ` Andi Kleen
2004-12-18 10:06             ` Nick Piggin
2004-12-18 10:11               ` Andi Kleen
2004-12-18 10:22               ` Nick Piggin
2004-12-18 10:29                 ` Nick Piggin
2004-12-18 11:06               ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-12-18 11:17                 ` Nick Piggin
2004-12-18 11:32                   ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-12-18 11:55                     ` Nick Piggin
2004-12-18 12:46                       ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-12-18 12:48                         ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-12-19  0:05                         ` Nick Piggin
2004-12-19  0:20                           ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-12-19  0:38                             ` Nick Piggin
2004-12-19  1:01                               ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-12-19  1:31                             ` Linus Torvalds
2004-12-19  2:08                               ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-12-19  2:26                                 ` Nick Piggin
2004-12-19  5:23                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-12-19  6:02                                   ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-12-19 18:17                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2004-12-20  1:00                                       ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-12-18 10:45         ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-12-18 10:58           ` Nick Piggin
2004-12-19  0:07 ` [RFC][PATCH 0/10] " Hugh Dickins
2004-12-19  0:33   ` Nick Piggin
2004-12-20 18:04   ` Andi Kleen
2004-12-20 18:40     ` Linus Torvalds
2004-12-20 18:53       ` Andi Kleen
2004-12-21  0:04         ` Linus Torvalds
2004-12-21  0:22           ` Andi Kleen
2004-12-21  0:43             ` Linus Torvalds
2004-12-21  0:47             ` Nick Piggin
2004-12-21  2:55               ` Hugh Dickins
2004-12-21  3:21                 ` Nick Piggin
2004-12-21  3:47                 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-12-21  3:56                   ` Linus Torvalds
2004-12-21  4:04                     ` Nick Piggin
2004-12-21  4:08                       ` Nick Piggin
2004-12-21  9:36                     ` Andi Kleen
2004-12-21 10:13                       ` Hugh Dickins
2004-12-21 10:59                       ` Nick Piggin
2004-12-21 17:36                       ` Linus Torvalds
2004-12-21 20:19                         ` Andi Kleen
2004-12-21 23:49                           ` Nick Piggin
2004-12-22 10:38                             ` Andi Kleen
2004-12-22 11:19                               ` Nick Piggin
2004-12-22 11:23                                 ` Nick Piggin
2004-12-22 18:07                                 ` Andi Kleen
2004-12-30 21:24                                   ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2004-12-21 10:52                     ` Nick Piggin

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