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From: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
To: William Lee Irwin III <wli@holomorphy.com>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>, Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>,
	Linux Memory Management <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Hugh Dickins <hugh@veritas.com>, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/10] alternate 4-level page tables patches
Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 13:26:04 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <41C4E6BC.4000002@yahoo.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20041219020823.GP771@holomorphy.com>

William Lee Irwin III wrote:
> On Sat, 18 Dec 2004, William Lee Irwin III wrote:
> 
>>>For clear_page_tables() you want to scan as little as possible. The
>>>exit()-time performance issue is tlb_finish_mmu().
> 
> 
> On Sat, Dec 18, 2004 at 05:31:48PM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> 
>>Note that the fact that we share lots of code between "unmap" and "exit" 
>>is likely a (performance) bug.
>>The exit case is really a lot simpler, not just because we get rid of the 
>>whole VM, but because nobody else can be reading the page tables at the 
>>same time, and in particular we do not have a lot of the races that a 
>>simple unmap can have. The whole "gather/flush" thing is overkill, I 
>>think.
> 
> 
> For x86-style MMU's you could literally not bother flushing the TLB at
> all, since you'll just switch to another set of pagetables.
> 
> 

I think you're right. At exit-time, I think the flush should just amount
to __flush_tlb() anyway, in which case it is only another cr3 reload, so
it is probably not a big saving?

> On Sat, Dec 18, 2004 at 05:31:48PM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> 
>>Actually, looking at the code, I wonder why we haven't marked the exit 
>>case to be "fast". We have this special optimization for single-CPU which 
>>doesn't bunch pages up and free them in chunks, and we should probably 
>>mark the exit case to use the fast-case where we can flush the TLB's 
>>early. Hmm?
>>Ingo, is there any reason we don't do this:
>>--- 1.24/include/asm-generic/tlb.h	2004-07-10 17:14:00 -07:00
>>+++ edited/include/asm-generic/tlb.h	2004-12-18 17:30:43 -08:00
>>@@ -58,7 +58,7 @@
>> 	tlb->mm = mm;
>> 
>> 	/* Use fast mode if only one CPU is online */
>>-	tlb->nr = num_online_cpus() > 1 ? 0U : ~0U;
>>+	tlb->nr = num_online_cpus() > 1 && !full_mm_flush ? 0U : ~0U;
>> 
>> 	tlb->fullmm = full_mm_flush;
>> 	tlb->freed = 0;
>>which should make the exit case TLB handling go much faster. Was there 
>>some race in that too? Nobody should be using the VM any more at that 
>>point, so it _should_ be safe, no?
> 
> 
> The stale translations can't be left around for ASID-tagged TLB's, lest
> the next user of the ASID inherit them.
> 

I think they should still be flushed before the ASID is reused though,
right? (not that I know how Linux uses ASID TLBs)

It looks to me like Linus' patch should fly (albiet with my limited
knowledge of !i386 architectures).
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  reply	other threads:[~2004-12-19  2:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-12-18  6:55 [RFC][PATCH 0/10] " Nick Piggin
2004-12-18  6:55 ` [PATCH 1/10] " Nick Piggin
2004-12-18  6:56   ` [PATCH 2/10] " Nick Piggin
2004-12-18  6:56     ` [PATCH 3/10] " Nick Piggin
2004-12-18  6:57       ` [PATCH 4/10] " Nick Piggin
2004-12-18  6:58         ` [PATCH 5/10] " Nick Piggin
2004-12-18  6:58           ` [PATCH 6/10] " Nick Piggin
2004-12-18  6:59             ` [PATCH 7/10] " Nick Piggin
2004-12-18  7:00               ` [PATCH 8/10] " Nick Piggin
2004-12-18  7:00                 ` [PATCH 9/10] " Nick Piggin
2004-12-18  7:01                   ` [PATCH 10/10] " Nick Piggin
2004-12-18  7:31                     ` Andi Kleen
2004-12-18  7:46                       ` Nick Piggin
2004-12-18  8:08                       ` Andrew Morton
2004-12-18  9:48                         ` Andi Kleen
2004-12-18 19:06                       ` Linus Torvalds
2004-12-20 17:43                         ` Andi Kleen
2004-12-20 17:47                           ` Randy.Dunlap
2004-12-20 18:08                           ` Linus Torvalds
2004-12-20 18:15                             ` Linus Torvalds
2004-12-20 18:19                             ` Andi Kleen
2004-12-20 18:47                               ` Linus Torvalds
2004-12-20 18:52                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-12-20 18:59                                 ` Andi Kleen
2004-12-20 18:57                                   ` Randy.Dunlap
2004-12-18  9:05         ` [PATCH 4/10] " Nick Piggin
2004-12-18  9:50           ` Andi Kleen
2004-12-18 10:06             ` Nick Piggin
2004-12-18 10:11               ` Andi Kleen
2004-12-18 10:22               ` Nick Piggin
2004-12-18 10:29                 ` Nick Piggin
2004-12-18 11:06               ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-12-18 11:17                 ` Nick Piggin
2004-12-18 11:32                   ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-12-18 11:55                     ` Nick Piggin
2004-12-18 12:46                       ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-12-18 12:48                         ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-12-19  0:05                         ` Nick Piggin
2004-12-19  0:20                           ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-12-19  0:38                             ` Nick Piggin
2004-12-19  1:01                               ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-12-19  1:31                             ` Linus Torvalds
2004-12-19  2:08                               ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-12-19  2:26                                 ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2004-12-19  5:23                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-12-19  6:02                                   ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-12-19 18:17                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2004-12-20  1:00                                       ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-12-18 10:45         ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-12-18 10:58           ` Nick Piggin
2004-12-19  0:07 ` [RFC][PATCH 0/10] " Hugh Dickins
2004-12-19  0:33   ` Nick Piggin
2004-12-20 18:04   ` Andi Kleen
2004-12-20 18:40     ` Linus Torvalds
2004-12-20 18:53       ` Andi Kleen
2004-12-21  0:04         ` Linus Torvalds
2004-12-21  0:22           ` Andi Kleen
2004-12-21  0:43             ` Linus Torvalds
2004-12-21  0:47             ` Nick Piggin
2004-12-21  2:55               ` Hugh Dickins
2004-12-21  3:21                 ` Nick Piggin
2004-12-21  3:47                 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-12-21  3:56                   ` Linus Torvalds
2004-12-21  4:04                     ` Nick Piggin
2004-12-21  4:08                       ` Nick Piggin
2004-12-21  9:36                     ` Andi Kleen
2004-12-21 10:13                       ` Hugh Dickins
2004-12-21 10:59                       ` Nick Piggin
2004-12-21 17:36                       ` Linus Torvalds
2004-12-21 20:19                         ` Andi Kleen
2004-12-21 23:49                           ` Nick Piggin
2004-12-22 10:38                             ` Andi Kleen
2004-12-22 11:19                               ` Nick Piggin
2004-12-22 11:23                                 ` Nick Piggin
2004-12-22 18:07                                 ` Andi Kleen
2004-12-30 21:24                                   ` Nick Piggin
2004-12-21 10:52                     ` Nick Piggin

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