From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Brendan Jackman <jackmanb@google.com>
Cc: Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Shuah Khan <shuah@kernel.org>, Dev Jain <dev.jain@arm.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 08/10] selftests/mm: Skip gup_longerm tests on weird filesystems
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2025 20:53:02 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <41923b80-55f4-44b6-bc59-60327e5308f4@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+i-1C3srkh44tN8dMQ5aD-jhoksUkdEpa+mMfdDtDrPAUv7gQ@mail.gmail.com>
On 11.03.25 14:00, Brendan Jackman wrote:
> On Thu, 6 Mar 2025 at 15:40, David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com> wrote:
>> Yes, just skip 9pfs early, and mention in the commit message that 9pfs
>> has a history of being probematic with "use-after-unlink", maybe
>> mentioning the discussion I linked above.
>>
>> Maybe something like this would work?
>>
>> diff --git a/tools/testing/selftests/mm/gup_longterm.c b/tools/testing/selftests/mm/gup_longterm.c
>> index 9423ad439a614..349e40d3979f2 100644
>> --- a/tools/testing/selftests/mm/gup_longterm.c
>> +++ b/tools/testing/selftests/mm/gup_longterm.c
>> @@ -47,6 +47,16 @@ static __fsword_t get_fs_type(int fd)
>> return ret ? 0 : fs.f_type;q
>> }
>>
>> +static bool fs_is_problematic(__fsword_t fs_type)
>> +{
>> + switch (fs_type) {
>> + case V9FS_MAGIC:
>> + return false;
>> + default:
>> + return true;
>> + }
>> +}
>
> Ugh, some fun discoveries.
>
> 1. fstatfs() seems to have the same bug as ftruncate() i.e. it doesn't
> work on unlinked files on 9pfs. This can be worked around by calling
> it on the parent directory, but...
oO what a piece of bad software :(
>
> 2. 9pfs seems to pass the f_type through from the host. So you can't
> detect it this way anyway.
>
> [3. I guess overlayfs & friends would also be an issue here although
> that doesn't affect my usecase.]
>
> Anyway, I think we would have to scrape /proc/mounts to do this :(
>
The question I am asking myself: is this a 9pfs design bug or is it a
9pfs hypervisor bug. Because we shouldn't try too hard to work around
hypervisor bugs.
Which 9pfs implementation are you using in the hypervisor?
> I think the proper way to deal with this is something like what I've
> described here[0]. I.e. have a central facility as part of kselftest
> to detect relevant characteristics of the platform. This logic could
> be written in a proper programming language or in Bash, then the
> relevant info could be passed in via the environment or whatever (e.g.
> export KSFT_SYSENV_cwd_ftruncate_unlinked_works=1).
>
> [0] https://lore.kernel.org/all/Z8WJEsEAwUPeMkqy@google.com/
>
> But, to find an immediate way to get these tests working, I think we
> are stuck with just peeking at errno and guessing for the time being.
--
Cheers,
David / dhildenb
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-03-11 19:53 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-02-28 16:54 [PATCH v3 00/10] selftests/mm: Some cleanups from trying to run them Brendan Jackman
2025-02-28 16:54 ` [PATCH v3 01/10] selftests/mm: Report errno when things fail in gup_longterm Brendan Jackman
2025-02-28 17:17 ` Dev Jain
2025-03-06 9:34 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-02-28 16:54 ` [PATCH v3 02/10] selftests/mm: Skip uffd-stress if userfaultfd not available Brendan Jackman
2025-02-28 17:20 ` Dev Jain
2025-02-28 16:54 ` [PATCH v3 03/10] selftests/mm: Skip uffd-wp-mremap " Brendan Jackman
2025-02-28 17:25 ` Dev Jain
2025-03-03 10:48 ` Brendan Jackman
2025-03-03 11:00 ` Dev Jain
2025-02-28 16:54 ` [PATCH v3 04/10] selftests/mm/uffd: Rename nr_cpus -> nr_threads Brendan Jackman
2025-02-28 17:36 ` Dev Jain
2025-03-03 9:47 ` Brendan Jackman
2025-03-03 10:18 ` Dev Jain
2025-03-03 10:34 ` Brendan Jackman
2025-03-03 10:46 ` Dev Jain
2025-02-28 16:54 ` [PATCH v3 05/10] selftests/mm: Print some details when uffd-stress gets bad params Brendan Jackman
2025-02-28 17:26 ` Dev Jain
2025-02-28 16:54 ` [PATCH v3 06/10] selftests/mm: Don't fail uffd-stress if too many CPUs Brendan Jackman
2025-02-28 17:37 ` Dev Jain
2025-03-05 11:07 ` Brendan Jackman
2025-02-28 16:54 ` [PATCH v3 07/10] selftests/mm: Skip map_populate on weird filesystems Brendan Jackman
2025-02-28 16:54 ` [PATCH v3 08/10] selftests/mm: Skip gup_longerm tests " Brendan Jackman
2025-03-06 9:28 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-03-06 12:42 ` Brendan Jackman
2025-03-06 14:40 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-03-11 13:00 ` Brendan Jackman
2025-03-11 19:53 ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2025-03-12 8:34 ` Brendan Jackman
2025-03-14 12:10 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-03-14 12:17 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-03-14 15:56 ` Brendan Jackman
2025-03-14 21:19 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-02-28 16:54 ` [PATCH v3 09/10] selftests/mm: Drop unnecessary sudo usage Brendan Jackman
2025-02-28 17:26 ` Dev Jain
2025-02-28 16:54 ` [PATCH v3 10/10] selftests/mm: Ensure uffd-wp-mremap gets pages of each size Brendan Jackman
2025-03-05 8:25 ` [PATCH v3 00/10] selftests/mm: Some cleanups from trying to run them Muhammad Usama Anjum
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