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From: Nick Piggin <piggin@cyberone.com.au>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Cc: Marcelo Tosatti <marcelo.tosatti@cyclades.com>, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] kswapd shall not sleep during page shortage
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 13:49:57 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <419181D5.1090308@cyberone.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4191675B.3090903@cyberone.com.au>


Nick Piggin wrote:

>
> (*) I'm beginning to think they're due to me accidentally bumping the
>    page watermarks when 'fixing' them. I'll check that out presently.
>
>
That's basically it...

2.6.8 and 2.6.10-rc both have the same watermarks (in pages):

-----------
 From SysRq+M:

       pages_min   pages_low   pages_high
dma        4          8          12
normal   234        468         702
high     128        256         384

However, 2.6.10-rc has all 0's in its ->protection maps, 2.6.8 looks like:
       gfp_dma     gfp_normal  gfp_high
dma        8         476         732
normal     0         468         724
high       0         0           256

Because 2.6.8 basically keys the entire alloc_pages behaviour off the
->protection map (and look: the diagonal corresponds to pages_low for
each zone).
-----------


Following is the minimum free pages for each zone at which some action
will happen for order-0 (ZONE_NORMAL) allocations:

2.6.8
                             | GFP_KERNEL        | GFP_ATOMIC
allocate immediately         | 477 dma, 469 norm | 12 dma, 469 norm
allocate after waking kswapd | 477 dma, 469 norm | 12 dma, 352 norm
allocate after synch reclaim | 477 dma, 469 norm | n/a

2.6.10-rc
                             | GFP_KERNEL        | GFP_ATOMIC
allocate immediately         |   9 dma, 469 norm |  9 dma, 469 norm
allocate after waking kswapd |   5 dma, 234 norm |  3 dma,  88 norm
allocate after synch reclaim |   5 dma, 234 norm |  n/a

So the buffer between GFP_KERNEL and GFP_ATOMIC allocations is:

2.6.8      | 465 dma, 117 norm, 582 tot = 2328K
2.6.10-rc  |   2 dma, 146 norm, 148 tot =  592K

Although you can see that, theoretically 2.6.10 has a much better layout
of numbers, and an increased ZONE_NORMAL buffer, 2.6.8's weird ZONE_DMA
handling gives it 4 times the amount of buffer between GFP_KERNEL and
GFP_ATOMIC allocations.

Shall we crank up min_free_kbytes a bit?

We could also compress the watermarks, while increasing pages_min? That
will increase the GFP_ATOMIC buffer as well, without having free memory
run away on us (eg pages_min = 2*x, pages_low = 5*x/2, pages_high = 3*x)?

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  reply	other threads:[~2004-11-10  2:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-11-09 16:46 Marcelo Tosatti
2004-11-09 20:19 ` Andrew Morton
2004-11-09 17:41   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-11-09 21:33     ` Andrew Morton
2004-11-09 18:26       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-11-09 22:22         ` Andrew Morton
2004-11-09 20:31           ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-11-10  0:28             ` Andrew Morton
2004-11-09 23:16               ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-11-09 23:34                 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-11-10  2:53                 ` Andrew Morton
2004-11-10 18:14               ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-11-10 22:08                 ` Andrew Morton
2004-11-10  0:56           ` Nick Piggin
2004-11-10  2:49             ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2004-11-10  2:56               ` Andrew Morton
2004-11-10  3:12                 ` Nick Piggin
2004-11-10  3:18                   ` Andrew Morton
2004-11-10  3:27                     ` Nick Piggin
2004-11-10  4:15                     ` Nick Piggin
2004-11-10  8:17                       ` Marcelo Tosatti

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