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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>, Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
Cc: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>, Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 19/25] arm64/mm: Wire up PTE_CONT for user mappings
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2024 13:19:08 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <41499621-482f-455b-9f68-b43ea8052557@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d6ce951f-f83b-4a5a-a814-311f2d8b01e4@arm.com>

On 13.02.24 13:06, Ryan Roberts wrote:
> On 12/02/2024 20:38, Ryan Roberts wrote:
>> [...]
>>
>>>>>> +static inline bool mm_is_user(struct mm_struct *mm)
>>>>>> +{
>>>>>> +	/*
>>>>>> +	 * Don't attempt to apply the contig bit to kernel mappings, because
>>>>>> +	 * dynamically adding/removing the contig bit can cause page faults.
>>>>>> +	 * These racing faults are ok for user space, since they get serialized
>>>>>> +	 * on the PTL. But kernel mappings can't tolerate faults.
>>>>>> +	 */
>>>>>> +	return mm != &init_mm;
>>>>>> +}
>>>>>
>>>>> We also have the efi_mm as a non-user mm, though I don't think we manipulate
>>>>> that while it is live, and I'm not sure if that needs any special handling.
>>>>
>>>> Well we never need this function in the hot (order-0 folio) path, so I think I
>>>> could add a check for efi_mm here with performance implication. It's probably
>>>> safest to explicitly exclude it? What do you think?
>>>
>>> Oops: This should have read "I think I could add a check for efi_mm here
>>> *without* performance implication"
>>
>> It turns out that efi_mm is only defined when CONFIG_EFI is enabled. I can do this:
>>
>> return mm != &init_mm && (!IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_EFI) || mm != &efi_mm);
>>
>> Is that acceptable? This is my preference, but nothing else outside of efi
>> references this symbol currently.
>>
>> Or perhaps I can convince myself that its safe to treat efi_mm like userspace.
>> There are a couple of things that need to be garanteed for it to be safe:
>>
>>    - The PFNs of present ptes either need to have an associated struct page or
>>      need to have the PTE_SPECIAL bit set (either pte_mkspecial() or
>>      pte_mkdevmap())
>>
>>    - Live mappings must either be static (no changes that could cause fold/unfold
>>      while live) or the system must be able to tolerate a temporary fault
>>
>> Mark suggests efi_mm is not manipulated while live, so that meets the latter
>> requirement, but I'm not sure about the former?
> 
> I've gone through all the efi code, and conclude that, as Mark suggests, the
> mappings are indeed static. And additionally, the ptes are populated using only
> the _private_ ptep API, so there is no issue here. As just discussed with Mark,
> my prefereence is to not make any changes to code, and just add a comment
> describing why efi_mm is safe.
> 
> Details:
> 
> * Registered with ptdump
>      * ptep_get_lockless()
> * efi_create_mapping -> create_pgd_mapping … -> init_pte:
>      * __ptep_get()
>      * __set_pte()
> * efi_memattr_apply_permissions -> efi_set_mapping_permissions … -> set_permissions
>      * __ptep_get()
>      * __set_pte()

Sound good. We could add some VM_WARN_ON if we ever get the efi_mm via 
the "official" APIs.

-- 
Cheers,

David / dhildenb



  reply	other threads:[~2024-02-13 12:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-02-02  8:07 [PATCH v5 00/25] Transparent Contiguous PTEs for User Mappings Ryan Roberts
2024-02-02  8:07 ` [PATCH v5 01/25] mm: Clarify the spec for set_ptes() Ryan Roberts
2024-02-12 12:03   ` David Hildenbrand
2024-02-02  8:07 ` [PATCH v5 02/25] mm: thp: Batch-collapse PMD with set_ptes() Ryan Roberts
2024-02-02  8:07 ` [PATCH v5 03/25] mm: Make pte_next_pfn() a wrapper around pte_advance_pfn() Ryan Roberts
2024-02-12 12:14   ` David Hildenbrand
2024-02-12 14:10     ` Ryan Roberts
2024-02-12 14:29       ` David Hildenbrand
2024-02-12 21:34         ` Ryan Roberts
2024-02-13  9:54           ` David Hildenbrand
2024-02-02  8:07 ` [PATCH v5 04/25] arm/mm: Convert pte_next_pfn() to pte_advance_pfn() Ryan Roberts
2024-02-02  8:07 ` [PATCH v5 05/25] arm64/mm: " Ryan Roberts
2024-02-02  8:07 ` [PATCH v5 06/25] powerpc/mm: " Ryan Roberts
2024-02-02  8:07 ` [PATCH v5 07/25] x86/mm: " Ryan Roberts
2024-02-02  8:07 ` [PATCH v5 08/25] mm: Remove pte_next_pfn() and replace with pte_advance_pfn() Ryan Roberts
2024-02-02  8:07 ` [PATCH v5 09/25] arm64/mm: set_pte(): New layer to manage contig bit Ryan Roberts
2024-02-02  8:07 ` [PATCH v5 10/25] arm64/mm: set_ptes()/set_pte_at(): " Ryan Roberts
2024-02-02  8:07 ` [PATCH v5 11/25] arm64/mm: pte_clear(): " Ryan Roberts
2024-02-02  8:07 ` [PATCH v5 12/25] arm64/mm: ptep_get_and_clear(): " Ryan Roberts
2024-02-02  8:07 ` [PATCH v5 13/25] arm64/mm: ptep_test_and_clear_young(): " Ryan Roberts
2024-02-02  8:07 ` [PATCH v5 14/25] arm64/mm: ptep_clear_flush_young(): " Ryan Roberts
2024-02-02  8:07 ` [PATCH v5 15/25] arm64/mm: ptep_set_wrprotect(): " Ryan Roberts
2024-02-02  8:07 ` [PATCH v5 16/25] arm64/mm: ptep_set_access_flags(): " Ryan Roberts
2024-02-02  8:07 ` [PATCH v5 17/25] arm64/mm: ptep_get(): " Ryan Roberts
2024-02-02  8:07 ` [PATCH v5 18/25] arm64/mm: Split __flush_tlb_range() to elide trailing DSB Ryan Roberts
2024-02-12 12:44   ` David Hildenbrand
2024-02-12 13:05     ` Ryan Roberts
2024-02-12 13:15       ` David Hildenbrand
2024-02-12 13:27         ` Ryan Roberts
2024-02-02  8:07 ` [PATCH v5 19/25] arm64/mm: Wire up PTE_CONT for user mappings Ryan Roberts
2024-02-12 12:00   ` Mark Rutland
2024-02-12 12:59     ` Ryan Roberts
2024-02-12 13:54       ` David Hildenbrand
2024-02-12 14:45         ` Ryan Roberts
2024-02-12 15:26           ` David Hildenbrand
2024-02-12 15:34             ` Ryan Roberts
2024-02-12 16:24               ` David Hildenbrand
2024-02-13 15:29                 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-02-12 15:30       ` Ryan Roberts
2024-02-12 20:38         ` Ryan Roberts
2024-02-13 10:01           ` David Hildenbrand
2024-02-13 12:06           ` Ryan Roberts
2024-02-13 12:19             ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2024-02-13 13:06               ` Ryan Roberts
2024-02-13 13:13                 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-02-13 13:20                   ` Ryan Roberts
2024-02-13 13:22                     ` David Hildenbrand
2024-02-13 13:24                       ` Ryan Roberts
2024-02-13 13:33                     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2024-02-13 13:45                       ` David Hildenbrand
2024-02-13 14:02                         ` Ryan Roberts
2024-02-13 14:05                           ` David Hildenbrand
2024-02-13 14:08                             ` Ard Biesheuvel
2024-02-13 14:21                               ` Ryan Roberts
2024-02-13 12:02       ` Mark Rutland
2024-02-13 13:03         ` Ryan Roberts
2024-02-02  8:07 ` [PATCH v5 20/25] arm64/mm: Implement new wrprotect_ptes() batch API Ryan Roberts
2024-02-13 16:31   ` Mark Rutland
2024-02-13 16:36     ` Ryan Roberts
2024-02-02  8:07 ` [PATCH v5 21/25] arm64/mm: Implement new [get_and_]clear_full_ptes() batch APIs Ryan Roberts
2024-02-13 16:43   ` Mark Rutland
2024-02-13 16:48     ` Ryan Roberts
2024-02-13 16:53       ` Mark Rutland
2024-02-02  8:07 ` [PATCH v5 22/25] mm: Add pte_batch_hint() to reduce scanning in folio_pte_batch() Ryan Roberts
2024-02-12 13:43   ` David Hildenbrand
2024-02-12 15:00     ` Ryan Roberts
2024-02-12 15:47     ` Ryan Roberts
2024-02-12 16:27       ` David Hildenbrand
2024-02-02  8:07 ` [PATCH v5 23/25] arm64/mm: Implement pte_batch_hint() Ryan Roberts
2024-02-12 13:46   ` David Hildenbrand
2024-02-13 16:54   ` Mark Rutland
2024-02-02  8:07 ` [PATCH v5 24/25] arm64/mm: __always_inline to improve fork() perf Ryan Roberts
2024-02-13 16:55   ` Mark Rutland
2024-02-02  8:07 ` [PATCH v5 25/25] arm64/mm: Automatically fold contpte mappings Ryan Roberts
2024-02-13 17:44   ` Mark Rutland
2024-02-13 18:05     ` Ryan Roberts
2024-02-08 17:34 ` [PATCH v5 00/25] Transparent Contiguous PTEs for User Mappings Mark Rutland
2024-02-09  8:54   ` Ryan Roberts
2024-02-09 22:16     ` David Hildenbrand
2024-02-09 23:52       ` Ryan Roberts

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