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E.g., even after this > patch, the child, if intentional, can also mmap() a new VMA on top of the > uffd tracked region to stop being trapped by the parent. The parent might > still get a UNMAP event if registered, but it'll not be able to track the > new VMAs mapped. Ah, I thought there was a way yo track/intercept all new mappings as well, but looks like that is at least not the case through UFFD_EVENT_* as it seems. -- Cheers, David / dhildenb