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From: Dev Jain <dev.jain@arm.com>
To: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>,
	Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, riel@surriel.com,
	Liam.Howlett@oracle.com, vbabka@kernel.org, harry.yoo@oracle.com,
	jannh@google.com, baohua@kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, stable <stable@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm/rmap: fix incorrect pte restoration for lazyfree folios
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2026 10:41:04 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <40c4917a-cf50-43f6-8ef0-de5a2c7a638f@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <36e676b4-dc6f-45f7-b885-8685227ac6a8@kernel.org>



On 24/02/26 9:31 pm, David Hildenbrand (Arm) wrote:
> On 2/24/26 12:43, Lorenzo Stoakes wrote:
>> On Tue, Feb 24, 2026 at 11:31:24AM +0000, Lorenzo Stoakes wrote:
>>> Thanks Dev.
>>>
>>> Andrew - why was commit 354dffd29575 ("mm: support batched unmap for lazyfree
>>> large folios during reclamation") merged?
>>>
>>> It had enormous amounts of review commentary at
>>> https://lore.kernel.org/all/146b4cb1-aa1e-4519-9e03-f98cfb1135d2@redhat.com/ and
>>> no tags, this should be a signal to wait for a respin _at least_, and really if
>>> late in cycle suggests it should wait a cycle.
>>>
>>> I've said going forward I'm going to check THP series for tags and if not
>>> present NAK if they hit mm-stable, I guess I'll extend that to rmap also.
>>
>> Sorry I misread the original mail rushing through this is old... so this is less
>> pressing than I thought (for some reason I thought it was merged last cycle...!)
>> but it's a good example of how stuff can go unnoticed for a while.
>>
>> In that case maybe a revert is a bit much and we just want the simplest possible
>> fix for backporting.
> 
> Dev volunteered to un-messify some of the stuff here. In particular, to
> extend batching to all cases, not just some hand-selected ones.
> 
> Support for file folios is on the way.

Typo - anonymous non-lazyfree folios : )

> 
>>
>> But is the proposed 'just assume wrprotect' sensible? David?
> 
> In general, I think so. If PTEs were writable, they certainly have
> PAE set. The write-fault handler can fully recover from that (as PAE is
> set). If it's ever a performance problem (doubt), we can revisit.
> 
> I'm wondering whether we should just perform the wrprotect earlier:
> 
> diff --git a/mm/rmap.c b/mm/rmap.c
> index 0f00570d1b9e..19b875ee3fad 100644
> --- a/mm/rmap.c
> +++ b/mm/rmap.c
> @@ -2150,6 +2150,16 @@ static bool try_to_unmap_one(struct folio *folio, struct vm_area_struct *vma,
>  
>                         /* Nuke the page table entry. */
>                         pteval = get_and_clear_ptes(mm, address, pvmw.pte, nr_pages);
> +
> +                       /*
> +                        * Our batch might include writable and read-only
> +                        * PTEs. When we have to restore the mapping, just
> +                        * assume read-only to not accidentally upgrade
> +                        * write permissions for PTEs that must not be
> +                        * writable.
> +                        */
> +                       pteval = pte_wrprotect(pteval);
> +
>                         /*
>                          * We clear the PTE but do not flush so potentially
>                          * a remote CPU could still be writing to the folio
> 
> 
> Given that nobody asks for writability (pte_write()) later.
> 
> Or does someone care?
> 
> Staring at set_tlb_ubc_flush_pending()->pte_accessible() I am
> not 100% sure. Could pte_wrprotect() turn a PTE inaccessible on some
> architecture (write-only)? I don't think so.
> 
> 
> We have the following options:
> 
> 1) pte_wrprotect(): fake that all was read-only.
> 
> Either we do it like Dev suggests, or we do it as above early.
> 
> The downside is that any code that might later want to know "was
> this possibly writable" would get that information. Well, it wouldn't
> get that information reliably *today* already (and that sounds a bit shaky).

I would vote for this, since if we were to follow the current patch,
the extension to anon folios will make it worse (pte_wrprotect at 5 places
- the 3 additional places being in the if conditions consisting of
folio_dup_swap, arch_unmap_one, folio_try_share_anon_rmap_pte)
The downside being that if we fail in this rmap path, the ptes are all
write-protected. But then the page is already there - the fault is going
to be processed fast.

> 
> 2) Tell batching logic to honor pte_write()
> 
> Sounds suboptimal for some cases that really don't care in the future.
> 
> 3) Tell batching logic to tell us if any pte was writable: FPB_MERGE_WRITE
> 
> ... then we know for sure whether any PTE was writable and we could

Well, we don't need this? The problem here is that we are making a decision
on the basis of the writability of the *first* pte of the batch - so if
the first pte is writable, only then we have the problem we have been
talking about.

We could have had a FPB_MERGE_WRPROTECT (which I know, is totally
incompatible with FPB_MERGE_WRITE) - that would tell whether at least one
pte in the patch was non-writable, in which case we will be able to avoid
the restoration of the entire batch to writeprotected if all the ptes
were writable (which I am assuming is the common case). But of course this
is not possible to do with the current shape of folio_pte_batch_flags. We
will have to revert the FPB_MERGE_* stuff to just collect the "at least one
is writable, at least one is dirty, at least one is young, at least one is
non-writable" etc information from the function and let the caller handle
it. That will kill all the work you did in simplifying that function :)


> 
> (a) Pass it as we did before around to all checks, like pte_accessible().
> 
> (b) Have an explicit restore PTE where we play save.
> 
> 
> I raised to Dev in private that softdirty handling is also shaky, as we
> batch over that. Meaning that we could lose or gain softdirty PTE bits in
> a batch.
> 
> For lazyfree and file folios it doesn't really matter I guess. But it will
> matter once we unlock it for all anon folios.
> 
> 
> 1) sounds simplest, 3) sounds cleanest long-term.
> 



      reply	other threads:[~2026-02-25  5:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-02-24 11:09 Dev Jain
2026-02-24 11:31 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-02-24 11:43   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-02-24 16:01     ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-02-25  5:11       ` Dev Jain [this message]

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