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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
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Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: folio_mmapped
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2024 10:28:11 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <40a8fb34-868f-4e19-9f98-7516948fc740@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZdfoR3nCEP3HTtm1@casper.infradead.org>

On 23.02.24 01:35, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 22, 2024 at 03:43:56PM -0800, Elliot Berman wrote:
>>> This creates the situation where access to successfully mmap()'d
>>> memory might SIGBUS at page fault. There is precedence for
>>> similar behavior in the kernel I believe, with MADV_HWPOISON and
>>> the hugetlbfs cgroups controller, which could SIGBUS at page
>>> fault time depending on the accounting limit.
>>
>> I added a test: folio_mmapped() [1] which checks if there's a vma
>> covering the corresponding offset into the guest_memfd. I use this
>> test before trying to make page private to guest and I've been able to
>> ensure that userspace can't even mmap() private guest memory. If I try
>> to make memory private, I can test that it's not mmapped and not allow
>> memory to become private. In my testing so far, this is enough to
>> prevent SIGBUS from happening.
>>
>> This test probably should be moved outside Gunyah specific code, and was
>> looking for maintainer to suggest the right home for it :)
>>
>> [1]: https://lore.kernel.org/all/20240222-gunyah-v17-20-1e9da6763d38@quicinc.com/
> 
> You, um, might have wanted to send an email to linux-mm, not bury it in
> the middle of a series of 35 patches?
> 
> So this isn't folio_mapped() because you're interested if anyone _could_
> fault this page, not whether the folio is currently present in anyone's
> page tables.
> 
> It's like walk_page_mapping() but with a trivial mm_walk_ops; not sure
> it's worth the effort to use walk_page_mapping(), but I would defer to
> David.

First, I suspect we are not only concerned about current+future VMAs 
covering the page, we are also interested in any page pins that could 
have been derived from such a VMA?

Imagine user space mmap'ed the file, faulted in page, took a pin on the 
page using pin_user_pages() and friends, and then munmap()'ed the VMA.

You likely want to catch that as well and not allow a conversion to private?

[I assume you want to convert the page to private only if you hold all 
the folio references -- i.e., if the refcount of a small folio is 1]


Now, regarding the original question (disallow mapping the page), I see 
the following approaches:

1) SIGBUS during page fault. There are other cases that can trigger
    SIGBUS during page faults: hugetlb when we are out of free hugetlb
    pages, userfaultfd with UFFD_FEATURE_SIGBUS.

-> Simple and should get the job done.

2) folio_mmapped() + preventing new mmaps covering that folio

-> More complicated, requires an rmap walk on every conversion.

3) Disallow any mmaps of the file while any page is private

-> Likely not what you want.


Why was 1) abandoned? I looks a lot easier and harder to mess up. Why 
are you trying to avoid page faults? What's the use case?

-- 
Cheers,

David / dhildenb



  reply	other threads:[~2024-02-26  9:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20240222161047.402609-1-tabba@google.com>
     [not found] ` <20240222141602976-0800.eberman@hu-eberman-lv.qualcomm.com>
2024-02-23  0:35   ` folio_mmapped Matthew Wilcox
2024-02-26  9:28     ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2024-02-26 21:14       ` folio_mmapped Elliot Berman
2024-02-27 14:59         ` folio_mmapped David Hildenbrand
2024-02-28 10:48           ` folio_mmapped Quentin Perret
2024-02-28 11:11             ` folio_mmapped David Hildenbrand
2024-02-28 12:44               ` folio_mmapped Quentin Perret
2024-02-28 13:00                 ` folio_mmapped David Hildenbrand
2024-02-28 13:34                   ` folio_mmapped Quentin Perret
2024-02-28 18:43                     ` folio_mmapped Elliot Berman
2024-02-28 18:51                       ` Quentin Perret
2024-02-29 10:04                     ` folio_mmapped David Hildenbrand
2024-02-29 19:01                       ` folio_mmapped Fuad Tabba
2024-03-01  0:40                         ` folio_mmapped Elliot Berman
2024-03-01 11:16                           ` folio_mmapped David Hildenbrand
2024-03-04 12:53                             ` folio_mmapped Quentin Perret
2024-03-04 20:22                               ` folio_mmapped David Hildenbrand
2024-03-01 11:06                         ` folio_mmapped David Hildenbrand
2024-03-04 12:36                       ` folio_mmapped Quentin Perret
2024-03-04 19:04                         ` folio_mmapped Sean Christopherson
2024-03-04 20:17                           ` folio_mmapped David Hildenbrand
2024-03-04 21:43                             ` folio_mmapped Elliot Berman
2024-03-04 21:58                               ` folio_mmapped David Hildenbrand
2024-03-19  9:47                                 ` folio_mmapped Quentin Perret
2024-03-19  9:54                                   ` folio_mmapped David Hildenbrand
2024-03-18 17:06                             ` folio_mmapped Vishal Annapurve
2024-03-18 22:02                               ` folio_mmapped David Hildenbrand
     [not found]                                 ` <CAGtprH8B8y0Khrid5X_1twMce7r-Z7wnBiaNOi-QwxVj4D+L3w@mail.gmail.com>
2024-03-19  0:10                                   ` folio_mmapped Sean Christopherson
2024-03-19 10:26                                     ` folio_mmapped David Hildenbrand
2024-03-19 13:19                                       ` folio_mmapped David Hildenbrand
2024-03-19 14:31                                       ` folio_mmapped Will Deacon
2024-03-19 23:54                                         ` folio_mmapped Elliot Berman
2024-03-22 16:36                                           ` Will Deacon
2024-03-22 18:46                                             ` Elliot Berman
2024-03-27 19:31                                               ` Will Deacon
     [not found]                                         ` <2d6fc3c0-a55b-4316-90b8-deabb065d007@redhat.com>
2024-03-22 21:21                                           ` folio_mmapped David Hildenbrand
2024-03-26 22:04                                             ` folio_mmapped Elliot Berman
2024-03-27 19:34                                           ` folio_mmapped Will Deacon
2024-03-28  9:06                                             ` folio_mmapped David Hildenbrand
2024-03-28 10:10                                               ` folio_mmapped Quentin Perret
2024-03-28 10:32                                                 ` folio_mmapped David Hildenbrand
2024-03-28 10:58                                                   ` folio_mmapped Quentin Perret
2024-03-28 11:41                                                     ` folio_mmapped David Hildenbrand
2024-03-29 18:38                                                       ` folio_mmapped Vishal Annapurve
2024-04-04  0:15                                             ` folio_mmapped Sean Christopherson
2024-03-19 15:04                                       ` folio_mmapped Sean Christopherson
2024-03-22 17:16                                         ` folio_mmapped David Hildenbrand
2024-02-26  9:03   ` [RFC PATCH v1 00/26] KVM: Restricted mapping of guest_memfd at the host and pKVM/arm64 support Fuad Tabba

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