From: David Brownell <david-b@pacbell.net>
To: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
Cc: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
Nicolas DET <nd@bplan-gmbh.de>,
USB development list <linux-usb-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>,
linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [linux-usb-devel] Patch for UHCI driver (from kernel 2.6.6).
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 10:08:05 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <40CF2CF5.5000209@pacbell.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.0406151221220.1960-100000@ida.rowland.org>
Alan Stern wrote:
> On Mon, 14 Jun 2004, David Brownell wrote:
>
>
>>Seems like the dma_alloc_coherent() API spec can't be
>>implemented on such machines then, since it's defined
>>to return memory(*) such that:
>>
>> ... a write by either the device or the processor
>> can immediately be read by the processor or device
>> without having to worry about caching effects.
>>
>>...
>
> That text strikes me as rather ambiguous. ...
> ... It doesn't specify what happens to the other data
> bytes in the same cache line which _weren't_ written -- maybe they'll be
> messed up.
Actually I thought it was quite explicit: "without having
to worry about caching effects". What you described is
clearly a caching effect: caused by caching. And maybe
fixable by appropriate cache-flushing, or other cache-aware
driver logic ... making it "worry about caching effects".
Like the patch from Nicolas.
Maybe what we really need is patches to make USB switch to
dma_alloc_noncoherent(), checking dma_is_consistent() to
see whether a given QH/TD/ED/iTD/sITD/FSTN/... needs to be
explicitly flushed from cpu cache before handover to HC.
- Dave
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2004-06-15 16:35 ` Alan Stern
2004-06-15 17:08 ` David Brownell [this message]
2004-06-15 17:23 ` Duncan Sands
2004-06-15 19:35 ` Alan Stern
2004-06-15 20:33 ` David Brownell
2004-06-15 21:12 ` Alan Stern
2004-06-15 21:40 ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
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