From: "David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)" <david@kernel.org>
To: Ankur Arora <ankur.a.arora@oracle.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org, x86@kernel.org
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v11 7/8] mm: folio_zero_user: clear page ranges
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2026 23:16:48 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <409dc029-ad8a-4f7e-931e-8044b61a0295@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260107072009.1615991-8-ankur.a.arora@oracle.com>
On 1/7/26 08:20, Ankur Arora wrote:
> Use batch clearing in clear_contig_highpages() instead of clearing a
> single page at a time. Exposing larger ranges enables the processor to
> optimize based on extent.
>
> To do this we just switch to using clear_user_highpages() which would
> in turn use clear_user_pages() or clear_pages().
>
> Batched clearing, when running under non-preemptible models, however,
> has latency considerations. In particular, we need periodic invocations
> of cond_resched() to keep to reasonable preemption latencies.
> This is a problem because the clearing primitives do not, or might not
> be able to, call cond_resched() to check if preemption is needed.
>
> So, limit the worst case preemption latency by doing the clearing in
> units of no more than PROCESS_PAGES_NON_PREEMPT_BATCH pages.
> (Preemptible models already define away most of cond_resched(), so the
> batch size is ignored when running under those.)
>
> PROCESS_PAGES_NON_PREEMPT_BATCH: for architectures with "fast"
> clear-pages (ones that define clear_pages()), we define it as 32MB
> worth of pages. This is meant to be large enough to allow the processor
> to optimize the operation and yet small enough that we see reasonable
> preemption latency for when this optimization is not possible
> (ex. slow microarchitectures, memory bandwidth saturation.)
>
> This specific value also allows for a cacheline allocation elision
> optimization (which might help unrelated applications by not evicting
> potentially useful cache lines) that kicks in recent generations of
> AMD Zen processors at around LLC-size (32MB is a typical size).
>
> At the same time 32MB is small enough that even with poor clearing
> bandwidth (say ~10GBps), time to clear 32MB should be well below the
> scheduler's default warning threshold (sysctl_resched_latency_warn_ms=100).
>
> "Slow" architectures (don't have clear_pages()) will continue to use
> the base value (single page).
>
> Performance
> ==
>
> Testing a demand fault workload shows a decent improvement in bandwidth
> with pg-sz=1GB. Bandwidth with pg-sz=2MB stays flat.
>
> $ perf bench mem mmap -p $pg-sz -f demand -s 64GB -l 5
>
> contiguous-pages batched-pages
> (GBps +- %stdev) (GBps +- %stdev)
>
> pg-sz=2MB 23.58 +- 1.95% 25.34 +- 1.18% + 7.50% preempt=*
>
> pg-sz=1GB 25.09 +- 0.79% 39.22 +- 2.32% + 56.31% preempt=none|voluntary
> pg-sz=1GB 25.71 +- 0.03% 52.73 +- 0.20% [#] +110.16% preempt=full|lazy
>
> [#] We perform much better with preempt=full|lazy because, not
> needing explicit invocations of cond_resched() we can clear the
> full extent (pg-sz=1GB) as a single unit which the processor
> can optimize for.
>
> (Unless otherwise noted, all numbers are on AMD Genoa (EPYC 9J13);
> region-size=64GB, local node; 2.56 GHz, boost=0.)
>
> Analysis
> ==
>
> pg-sz=1GB: the improvement we see falls in two buckets depending on
> the batch size in use.
>
> For batch-size=32MB the number of cachelines allocated (L1-dcache-loads)
> -- which stay relatively flat for smaller batches, start to drop off
> because cacheline allocation elision kicks in. And as can be seen below,
> at batch-size=1GB, we stop allocating cachelines almost entirely.
> (Not visible here but from testing with intermediate sizes, the
> allocation change kicks in only at batch-size=32MB and ramps up from
> there.)
>
> contigous-pages 6,949,417,798 L1-dcache-loads # 883.599 M/sec ( +- 0.01% ) (35.75%)
> 3,226,709,573 L1-dcache-load-misses # 46.43% of all L1-dcache accesses ( +- 0.05% ) (35.75%)
>
> batched,32MB 2,290,365,772 L1-dcache-loads # 471.171 M/sec ( +- 0.36% ) (35.72%)
> 1,144,426,272 L1-dcache-load-misses # 49.97% of all L1-dcache accesses ( +- 0.58% ) (35.70%)
>
> batched,1GB 63,914,157 L1-dcache-loads # 17.464 M/sec ( +- 8.08% ) (35.73%)
> 22,074,367 L1-dcache-load-misses # 34.54% of all L1-dcache accesses ( +- 16.70% ) (35.70%)
>
> The dropoff is also visible in L2 prefetch hits (miss numbers are
> on similar lines):
>
> contiguous-pages 3,464,861,312 l2_pf_hit_l2.all # 437.722 M/sec ( +- 0.74% ) (15.69%)
>
> batched,32MB 883,750,087 l2_pf_hit_l2.all # 181.223 M/sec ( +- 1.18% ) (15.71%)
>
> batched,1GB 8,967,943 l2_pf_hit_l2.all # 2.450 M/sec ( +- 17.92% ) (15.77%)
>
> This largely decouples the frontend from the backend since the clearing
> operation does not need to wait on loads from memory (we still need
> cacheline ownership but that's a shorter path). This is most visible
> if we rerun the test above with (boost=1, 3.66 GHz).
>
> $ perf bench mem mmap -p $pg-sz -f demand -s 64GB -l 5
>
> contiguous-pages batched-pages
> (GBps +- %stdev) (GBps +- %stdev)
>
> pg-sz=2MB 26.08 +- 1.72% 26.13 +- 0.92% - preempt=*
>
> pg-sz=1GB 26.99 +- 0.62% 48.85 +- 2.19% + 80.99% preempt=none|voluntary
> pg-sz=1GB 27.69 +- 0.18% 75.18 +- 0.25% +171.50% preempt=full|lazy
>
> Comparing the batched-pages numbers from the boost=0 ones and these: for
> a clock-speed gain of 42% we gain 24.5% for batch-size=32MB and 42.5%
> for batch-size=1GB.
> In comparison the baseline contiguous-pages case and both the
> pg-sz=2MB ones are largely backend bound so gain no more than ~10%.
>
> Other platforms tested, Intel Icelakex (Oracle X9) and ARM64 Neoverse-N1
> (Ampere Altra) both show an improvement of ~35% for pg-sz=2MB|1GB.
> The first goes from around 8GBps to 11GBps and the second from 32GBps
> to 44 GBPs.
>
> Signed-off-by: Ankur Arora <ankur.a.arora@oracle.com>
> ---
> include/linux/mm.h | 36 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> mm/memory.c | 18 +++++++++++++++---
> 2 files changed, 51 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/include/linux/mm.h b/include/linux/mm.h
> index a4a9a8d1ffec..fb5b86d78093 100644
> --- a/include/linux/mm.h
> +++ b/include/linux/mm.h
> @@ -4204,6 +4204,15 @@ static inline void clear_page_guard(struct zone *zone, struct page *page,
> * mapped to user space.
> *
> * Does absolutely no exception handling.
> + *
> + * Note that even though the clearing operation is preemptible, clear_pages()
> + * does not (and on architectures where it reduces to a few long-running
> + * instructions, might not be able to) call cond_resched() to check if
> + * rescheduling is required.
> + *
> + * When running under preemptible models this is not a problem. Under
> + * cooperatively scheduled models, however, the caller is expected to
> + * limit @npages to no more than PROCESS_PAGES_NON_PREEMPT_BATCH.
> */
> static inline void clear_pages(void *addr, unsigned int npages)
> {
> @@ -4214,6 +4224,32 @@ static inline void clear_pages(void *addr, unsigned int npages)
> }
> #endif
>
> +#ifndef PROCESS_PAGES_NON_PREEMPT_BATCH
> +#ifdef clear_pages
> +/*
> + * The architecture defines clear_pages(), and we assume that it is
> + * generally "fast". So choose a batch size large enough to allow the processor
> + * headroom for optimizing the operation and yet small enough that we see
> + * reasonable preemption latency for when this optimization is not possible
> + * (ex. slow microarchitectures, memory bandwidth saturation.)
> + *
> + * With a value of 32MB and assuming a memory bandwidth of ~10GBps, this should
> + * result in worst case preemption latency of around 3ms when clearing pages.
> + *
> + * (See comment above clear_pages() for why preemption latency is a concern
> + * here.)
> + */
> +#define PROCESS_PAGES_NON_PREEMPT_BATCH (32 << (20 - PAGE_SHIFT))
Nit: Could we use SZ_32G here?
SZ_32G >> PAGE_SHIFT;
> +#else /* !clear_pages */
> +/*
> + * The architecture does not provide a clear_pages() implementation. Assume
> + * that clear_page() -- which clear_pages() will fallback to -- is relatively
> + * slow and choose a small value for PROCESS_PAGES_NON_PREEMPT_BATCH.
> + */
> +#define PROCESS_PAGES_NON_PREEMPT_BATCH 1
> +#endif
> +#endif
> +
> #ifdef __HAVE_ARCH_GATE_AREA
> extern struct vm_area_struct *get_gate_vma(struct mm_struct *mm);
> extern int in_gate_area_no_mm(unsigned long addr);
> diff --git a/mm/memory.c b/mm/memory.c
> index c06e43a8861a..49e7154121f5 100644
> --- a/mm/memory.c
> +++ b/mm/memory.c
> @@ -7240,13 +7240,25 @@ static inline int process_huge_page(
> static void clear_contig_highpages(struct page *page, unsigned long addr,
> unsigned int nr_pages)
> {
> - unsigned int i;
> + unsigned int i, unit, count;
>
> might_sleep();
> - for (i = 0; i < nr_pages; i++) {
> + /*
> + * When clearing we want to operate on the largest extent possible since
> + * that allows for extent based architecture specific optimizations.
> + *
> + * However, since the clearing interfaces (clear_user_highpages(),
> + * clear_user_pages(), clear_pages()), do not call cond_resched(), we
> + * limit the batch size when running under non-preemptible scheduling
> + * models.
> + */
> + unit = preempt_model_preemptible() ? nr_pages : PROCESS_PAGES_NON_PREEMPT_BATCH;
> +
Nit: you could do above:
const unsigned int unit = preempt_model_preemptible() ? nr_pages : PROCESS_PAGES_NON_PREEMPT_BATCH;
> + for (i = 0; i < nr_pages; i += count) {
> cond_resched();
>
> - clear_user_highpage(page + i, addr + i * PAGE_SIZE);
> + count = min(unit, nr_pages - i);
> + clear_user_highpages(page + i, addr + i * PAGE_SIZE, count);
> }
> }
>
Feel free to send a fixup patch inline as reply to this mail for any of these that
Andrew can simply squash. No need to resend just because of that.
Acked-by: David Hildenbrand (Red Hat) <david@kernel.org>
--
Cheers
David
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-01-07 22:17 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-01-07 7:20 [PATCH v11 0/8] " Ankur Arora
2026-01-07 7:20 ` [PATCH v11 1/8] treewide: provide a generic clear_user_page() variant Ankur Arora
2026-01-07 7:20 ` [PATCH v11 2/8] mm: introduce clear_pages() and clear_user_pages() Ankur Arora
2026-01-07 22:06 ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2026-01-07 7:20 ` [PATCH v11 3/8] highmem: introduce clear_user_highpages() Ankur Arora
2026-01-07 22:08 ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2026-01-08 6:10 ` Ankur Arora
2026-01-07 7:20 ` [PATCH v11 4/8] x86/mm: Simplify clear_page_* Ankur Arora
2026-01-07 7:20 ` [PATCH v11 5/8] x86/clear_page: Introduce clear_pages() Ankur Arora
2026-01-07 7:20 ` [PATCH v11 6/8] mm: folio_zero_user: clear pages sequentially Ankur Arora
2026-01-07 22:10 ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2026-01-07 7:20 ` [PATCH v11 7/8] mm: folio_zero_user: clear page ranges Ankur Arora
2026-01-07 22:16 ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat) [this message]
2026-01-08 0:44 ` Ankur Arora
2026-01-08 0:43 ` [PATCH] mm: folio_zero_user: (fixup) cache neighbouring pages Ankur Arora
2026-01-08 0:53 ` Ankur Arora
2026-01-08 6:04 ` [PATCH] mm: folio_zero_user: (fixup) cache page ranges Ankur Arora
2026-01-07 7:20 ` [PATCH v11 8/8] mm: folio_zero_user: cache neighbouring pages Ankur Arora
2026-01-07 22:18 ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2026-01-07 18:09 ` [PATCH v11 0/8] mm: folio_zero_user: clear page ranges Andrew Morton
2026-01-08 6:21 ` Ankur Arora
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