From: "Martin J. Bligh" <mbligh@aracnet.com>
To: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>
Cc: Brent Casavant <bcasavan@sgi.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
hugh@veritas.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Use MPOL_INTERLEAVE for tmpfs files
Date: Tue, 02 Nov 2004 08:55:15 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <40740000.1099414515@[10.10.2.4]> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20041102155507.GA323@wotan.suse.de>
--Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de> wrote (on Tuesday, November 02, 2004 16:55:07 +0100):
> On Tue, Nov 02, 2004 at 07:46:59AM -0800, Martin J. Bligh wrote:
>> > This patch causes memory allocation for tmpfs files to be distributed
>> > evenly across NUMA machines. In most circumstances today, tmpfs files
>> > will be allocated on the same node as the task writing to the file.
>> > In many cases, particularly when large files are created, or a large
>> > number of files are created by a single task, this leads to a severe
>> > imbalance in free memory amongst nodes. This patch corrects that
>> > situation.
>>
>> Yeah, but it also ruins your locality of reference (in a NUMA sense).
>> Not convinced that's a good idea. You're guaranteeing universally consistent
>> worse-case performance for everyone. And you're only looking at a situation
>> where there's one allocator on the system, and that's imbalanced.
>>
>> You WANT your data to be local. That's the whole idea.
>
> I think it depends on how you use tmpfs. When you use it for read/write
> it's a good idea because you likely don't care about a bit of additional
> latency and it's better to not fill up your local nodes with temporary
> files.
>
> If you use it with mmap then you likely want local policy.
>
> But that's a big ugly to distingush, that is why I suggested the sysctl.
As long as it defaults to off, I guess I don't really care. Though I'm still
wholly unconvinced it makes much sense. I think we're just papering over the
underlying problem - that we don't do good balancing between nodes under
mem pressure.
M.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-11-02 16:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-11-02 1:07 Brent Casavant
2004-11-02 1:43 ` Dave Hansen
2004-11-02 9:13 ` Andi Kleen
2004-11-02 15:46 ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-11-02 15:55 ` Andi Kleen
2004-11-02 16:55 ` Martin J. Bligh [this message]
2004-11-02 22:17 ` Brent Casavant
2004-11-02 22:51 ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-11-03 1:12 ` Brent Casavant
2004-11-03 1:30 ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-11-03 8:44 ` Hugh Dickins
2004-11-03 9:01 ` Andi Kleen
2004-11-03 16:32 ` Brent Casavant
2004-11-03 21:00 ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-11-08 19:58 ` Brent Casavant
2004-11-08 20:57 ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-11-09 19:04 ` Hugh Dickins
2004-11-09 20:09 ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-11-09 21:08 ` Hugh Dickins
2004-11-09 22:07 ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-11-10 2:41 ` Brent Casavant
2004-11-10 14:20 ` Hugh Dickins
2004-11-11 19:48 ` Hugh Dickins
2004-11-11 23:10 ` Brent Casavant
2004-11-15 22:07 ` Brent Casavant
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