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From: David Laight <David.Laight@ACULAB.COM>
To: 'Russell King' <linux@armlinux.org.uk>
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Subject: RE: [PATCH v2] ARM: unwind: improve unwinders for noreturn case
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2024 15:20:57 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <401453a216644af98d577f51c12d292b@AcuMS.aculab.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZfxKiQuNM/zruxSd@shell.armlinux.org.uk>

From: Russell King
> Sent: 21 March 2024 14:56
> 
> On Thu, Mar 21, 2024 at 02:37:28PM +0000, David Laight wrote:
> > From: Russell King
> > > Sent: 21 March 2024 13:08
> > >
> > > On Thu, Mar 21, 2024 at 12:57:07PM +0000, David Laight wrote:
> > > > From: Russell King
> > > > > Sent: 21 March 2024 12:23
> > > > ...
> > > > > > That might mean you can get the BL in the middle of a function
> > > > > > but where the following instruction is for the 'no stack frame'
> > > > > > side of the branch.
> > > > > > That is very likely to break any stack offset calculations.
> > > > >
> > > > > No it can't. At any one point in the function, the stack has to be in
> > > > > a well defined state, so that access to local variables can work, and
> > > > > also the stack can be correctly unwound. If there exists a point in
> > > > > the function body which can be reached where the stack could be in two
> > > > > different states, then the stack can't be restored to the parent
> > > > > context.
> > > >
> > > > Actually you can get there with a function that has a lot of args.
> > > > So you can have:
> > > > 	if (...) {
> > > > 		push x
> > > > 		bl func
> > > > 		add %sp, #8
> > > > 	}
> > > > 	code;
> > > > which is fine.
> > >
> > > No you can't.... and that isn't even Arm code. Arm doesn't use %sp.
> > > Moreover, that "bl" will stomp over the link register, meaning this
> > > function can not return.
> >
...
> 
> Don't show me Arm64 assembly when we're discussing Arm32.

Oops - I'd assumed no one did 32bit :-)
In any case it is much the same, see https://godbolt.org/z/7dcbKrs76

f4:
        push    {r3, lr}
        subs    r3, r0, #0
        ble     .L2
        mov     r2, r3
        mov     r1, r3
        bl      f
.L2:
        pop     {r3, pc}

f5:
        subs    r3, r0, #0
        ble     .L6
        push    {lr}
        sub     sp, sp, #12
        mov     r2, r3
        mov     r1, r3
        str     r3, [sp]
        bl      f
.L6:
        bx      lr

That is with -mno-sched-prolog but with 5+ args they spill to stack
and the %sp change is pulled into the conditional.

It does look like %lr is being saved (and for arm64 I think).

	David

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  reply	other threads:[~2024-03-21 15:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-03-04  1:39 [PATCH] usercopy: delete __noreturn from usercopy_abort Jiangfeng Xiao
2024-03-04 15:15 ` Jann Horn
2024-03-04 17:40   ` Kees Cook
2024-03-05  3:31     ` Jiangfeng Xiao
2024-03-05  9:32       ` Kees Cook
2024-03-05 11:38         ` Jiangfeng Xiao
2024-03-05 17:58           ` Josh Poimboeuf
2024-03-06  4:00             ` Jiangfeng Xiao
2024-03-06  9:52             ` Russell King (Oracle)
2024-03-06 16:02               ` Josh Poimboeuf
2024-03-09 14:58               ` David Laight
2024-03-18  4:01             ` Jiangfeng Xiao
2024-03-05  2:54   ` Jiangfeng Xiao
2024-03-05  3:12     ` Jiangfeng Xiao
2024-03-20  2:19 ` [PATCH] ARM: unwind: improve unwinders for noreturn case Jiangfeng Xiao
2024-03-20  2:46   ` Kees Cook
2024-03-20  3:30     ` Jiangfeng Xiao
2024-03-20  3:34       ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-03-20  3:46         ` Jiangfeng Xiao
2024-03-20  3:44 ` [PATCH v2] " Jiangfeng Xiao
2024-03-20  8:45   ` Russell King (Oracle)
2024-03-20 15:30     ` Jiangfeng Xiao
2024-03-20 19:40       ` Russell King (Oracle)
2024-03-21  9:44         ` Jiangfeng Xiao
2024-03-21 10:22           ` David Laight
2024-03-21 11:23             ` Russell King (Oracle)
2024-03-21 12:07               ` David Laight
2024-03-21 12:22                 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2024-03-21 12:57                   ` David Laight
2024-03-21 13:08                     ` Russell King (Oracle)
2024-03-21 14:37                       ` David Laight
2024-03-21 14:56                         ` Russell King (Oracle)
2024-03-21 15:20                           ` David Laight [this message]
2024-03-21 15:33                             ` Russell King (Oracle)
2024-03-21 22:43               ` Ard Biesheuvel
2024-03-22  0:08                 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2024-03-22  9:24                   ` David Laight
2024-03-22  9:52                     ` Russell King (Oracle)
2024-03-22 12:54                       ` Jiangfeng Xiao
2024-03-22 14:16                       ` David Laight
2024-03-20 15:41 ` [PATCH v3] " Jiangfeng Xiao
2024-03-20 19:42   ` Russell King (Oracle)

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