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From: Kiryl Shutsemau <kas@kernel.org>
To: "David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)" <david@kernel.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	 Muchun Song <muchun.song@linux.dev>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	 Oscar Salvador <osalvador@suse.de>,
	Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>,
	 Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>,
	 Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>, Baoquan He <bhe@redhat.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
	 Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	 Usama Arif <usamaarif642@gmail.com>,
	kernel-team@meta.com, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	 linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/11] mm/hugetlb: Eliminate fake head pages from vmemmap optimization
Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2025 21:41:18 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3v5hdubqnil6w54kimvbgapghj7irjp7xuqma6uxtsrpvj22ph@6t47vsevdwyi> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1b659d59-b1c1-4910-baab-0eef7cda234f@kernel.org>

On Fri, Dec 05, 2025 at 10:34:48PM +0100, David Hildenbrand (Red Hat) wrote:
> On 12/5/25 21:54, Kiryl Shutsemau wrote:
> > On Fri, Dec 05, 2025 at 09:44:30PM +0100, David Hildenbrand (Red Hat) wrote:
> > > On 12/5/25 21:33, Kiryl Shutsemau wrote:
> > > > On Fri, Dec 05, 2025 at 09:16:08PM +0100, David Hildenbrand (Red Hat) wrote:
> > > > > On 12/5/25 20:43, Kiryl Shutsemau wrote:
> > > > > > This series removes "fake head pages" from the HugeTLB vmemmap
> > > > > > optimization (HVO) by changing how tail pages encode their relationship
> > > > > > to the head page.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > It simplifies compound_head() and page_ref_add_unless(). Both are in the
> > > > > > hot path.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Background
> > > > > > ==========
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > HVO reduces memory overhead by freeing vmemmap pages for HugeTLB pages
> > > > > > and remapping the freed virtual addresses to a single physical page.
> > > > > > Previously, all tail page vmemmap entries were remapped to the first
> > > > > > vmemmap page (containing the head struct page), creating "fake heads" -
> > > > > > tail pages that appear to have PG_head set when accessed through the
> > > > > > deduplicated vmemmap.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > This required special handling in compound_head() to detect and work
> > > > > > around fake heads, adding complexity and overhead to a very hot path.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > New Approach
> > > > > > ============
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > For architectures/configs where sizeof(struct page) is a power of 2 (the
> > > > > > common case), this series changes how position of the head page is encoded
> > > > > > in the tail pages.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Instead of storing a pointer to the head page, the ->compound_info
> > > > > > (renamed from ->compound_head) now stores a mask.
> > > > > 
> > > > > (we're in the merge window)
> > > > > 
> > > > > That doesn't seem to be suitable for the memdesc plans, where we want all
> > > > > tail pages do directly point at the allocated memdesc (e.g., struct folio),
> > > > > no?
> > > > 
> > > > Sure. My understanding is that it is going to eliminate a need in
> > > > compound_head() completely. I don't see the conflict so far.
> > > 
> > > Right. All compound_head pointers will point at the allocated memdesc.
> > > 
> > > Would we still have to detect fake head pages though (at least for some
> > > transition period)?
> > 
> > If we need to detect if the memdesc is tail it should be as trivial as
> > comparing the given memdesc to the memdesc - 1. If they match, you are
> > looking at the tail.
> 
> How could you assume memdesc - 1 exists without performing other checks?

Map zero page in front of every discontinuous vmemmap region :P

-- 
  Kiryl Shutsemau / Kirill A. Shutemov


  reply	other threads:[~2025-12-05 21:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-12-05 19:43 Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-12-05 19:43 ` [PATCH 01/11] mm: Change the interface of prep_compound_tail() Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-12-05 21:49   ` Usama Arif
2025-12-05 22:10     ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-12-05 22:15       ` Usama Arif
2025-12-05 19:43 ` [PATCH 02/11] mm: Rename the 'compound_head' field in the 'struct page' to 'compound_info' Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-12-05 19:43 ` [PATCH 03/11] mm: Move set/clear_compound_head() to compound_head() Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-12-05 19:43 ` [PATCH 04/11] mm: Rework compound_head() for power-of-2 sizeof(struct page) Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-12-06  0:25   ` Usama Arif
2025-12-06 16:29     ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-12-06 17:36       ` Usama Arif
2025-12-05 19:43 ` [PATCH 05/11] mm/hugetlb: Refactor code around vmemmap_walk Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-12-06 16:42   ` Usama Arif
2025-12-08 10:30     ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-12-05 19:43 ` [PATCH 06/11] mm/hugetlb: Remove fake head pages Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-12-06 17:03   ` Usama Arif
2025-12-08 10:40     ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-12-05 19:43 ` [PATCH 07/11] mm: Drop fake head checks and fix a race condition Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-12-06 17:27   ` Usama Arif
2025-12-08 10:48     ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-12-05 19:43 ` [PATCH 08/11] hugetlb: Remove VMEMMAP_SYNCHRONIZE_RCU Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-12-05 19:43 ` [PATCH 09/11] mm/hugetlb: Remove hugetlb_optimize_vmemmap_key static key Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-12-05 19:43 ` [PATCH 10/11] mm: Remove the branch from compound_head() Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-12-05 19:43 ` [PATCH 11/11] hugetlb: Update vmemmap_dedup.rst Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-12-05 20:16 ` [PATCH 00/11] mm/hugetlb: Eliminate fake head pages from vmemmap optimization David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-12-05 20:33   ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-12-05 20:44     ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-12-05 20:54       ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-12-05 21:34         ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-12-05 21:41           ` Kiryl Shutsemau [this message]
2025-12-06 17:47             ` Usama Arif
2025-12-08  9:53               ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-12-08  8:51             ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-12-09  6:22 ` Muchun Song
2025-12-09 14:44   ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-12-10  3:39     ` Muchun Song
2025-12-11  3:45       ` Muchun Song
2025-12-11 15:08       ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-12-12  6:45         ` Muchun Song
2025-12-09 18:20 ` Frank van der Linden
2025-12-11 15:02   ` Kiryl Shutsemau

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