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Yes. The expectation would be that the prctl is either a) triggered early when there are not that many VMAs yet or b) inherited during fork+exec such that the target process immediately gets it enabled for all VMAs. > For having point 1, I think we will still need extra mm->flags, i.e. MMF_VM_THP_MADVISE/DEFER/ALWAYS/NEVER. Yes, and it's unclear what we really want here. > > I think it would have the same affect as what this patch is trying to do? But would be just more > expensive in terms of both code changes and the cost of the actual call as you now have to walk > all vmas. On the other hand you wont need the below diff in from v1. I do feel the current approach > in the patch is simpler? But if your point 3 is better in terms of code maintainability, happy to make > it the change to it in v2. Yes. Having a toggle that a) Changes the default of new VMAs to be VM_HUGEPAGE b) Modifies all existing VMAs that are not VM_NOHUGEPAGE to be VM_HUGEPAGE c) Is inherited during fork+exec Would not add any additional checks in our already-complicated THP allocation logic, it simply changes the default/value of VM_HUGEPAGE. At least to me, this sounds like better semantics. Would that make your use case happy? -- Cheers, David / dhildenb