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From: "Yin, Fengwei" <fengwei.yin@intel.com>
To: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
Cc: <linux-mm@kvack.org>, <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	<tim.c.chen@intel.com>, <ying.huang@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] mm: populate multiple PTEs if file page is large folio
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2023 09:41:13 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3f0a7090-6932-df1b-ad55-09ddc6169a75@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y8a004KTuONbWOSJ@casper.infradead.org>



On 1/17/2023 10:46 PM, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 17, 2023 at 11:37:05AM +0100, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>> On 17.01.23 10:19, Yin, Fengwei wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 1/14/2023 2:13 AM, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
>>>> On Sat, Jan 14, 2023 at 12:35:38AM +0800, Yin Fengwei wrote:
>>>>> The page fault number can be reduced by batched PTEs population.
>>>>> The batch size of PTEs population is not allowed to cross:
>>>>>    - page table boundaries
>>>>>    - vma range
>>>>>    - large folio size
>>>>>    - fault_around_bytes
>>>>
>>>> I find this patch very interesting.  But is it really worth it?  Most
>>>> file-backed page faults are resolved through the ->map_pages() path
>>>> which is almost always filemap_map_pages(), which does something
>>>> fairly similar to this already.  Do you have any performance numbers?
>>>>
>>> I tried the will-it-scale page_fault3:
>>> https://github.com/antonblanchard/will-it-scale/blob/master/tests/page_fault3.c
>>> with 96 processes on a test box with 48C/86T.
>>>
>>> The test result got about 3.75X better with 4.1X less page fault number
>>> with this patch.
>>>
>>> But It's a micro benchmark which shows extreme friendly case to this patch.
>>>
>>> I didn't see observed performance gain with other workloads. I suppose
>>> shared file write operations may not be common operations? Thanks.
>>
>> One question I have after reading "which does something fairly similar to
>> this already", if both paths could be unified.
> 
> I've been thinking about this already; not so much in terms of "unifying
> these two implementations" but rather "What's the right API for mapping
> the parts of a folio that fit into userspace in response to a fault".
> I haven't got quite as far as drafting code, but I'm thinking there should
> be an API where we pass in the vmf, a folio and some other information,
> and that function takes care of mapping however many pages from this
> folio that it can.
That would be lovely.

> 
> And the reason to split it up like that is to batch as many page
> operations into this folio as possible.  eg filemap_map_pages() was
> written "to get it working", not "to be efficient", so it does stupid
> things like call folio_ref_inc() every time it maps a page instead of
> counting how many pages it maps and calling folio_ref_add() at the end.
> Similar optimisations should be done for mapcount, which implies some
> kind of batched equivalent of page_add_*_rmap().
I tried to do batched mapcount when I worked on this patch.
But page_add_file_rmap() just support compound PMD_SIZE folio (maybe it
is time to remove that limitation?).

Regards
Yin, Fengwei


  reply	other threads:[~2023-01-18  1:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-01-13 16:35 Yin Fengwei
2023-01-13 18:13 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-01-14  0:58   ` Yin, Fengwei
2023-01-17  9:19   ` Yin, Fengwei
2023-01-17 10:37     ` David Hildenbrand
2023-01-17 14:46       ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-01-18  1:41         ` Yin, Fengwei [this message]
2023-01-18 14:05         ` Yin, Fengwei
2023-01-18  0:58       ` Yin, Fengwei

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