From: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
To: "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>,
Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
"Kirill A . Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] RFC: READ/WRITE_ONCE vma/mm cleanups
Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2019 14:04:38 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3e8b2ff0-d188-5259-b488-e31355e1e8ad@suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190301093729.wa4phctbvplt5pg3@kshutemo-mobl1>
On 3/1/19 10:37 AM, Kirill A. Shutemov wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 28, 2019 at 10:55:48PM -0500, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> This was a well known issue for more than a decade, but until a few
>> months ago we relied on the compiler to stick to atomic accesses and
>> updates while walking and updating pagetables.
>>
>> However now the 64bit native_set_pte finally uses WRITE_ONCE and
>> gup_pmd_range uses READ_ONCE as well.
>>
>> This convert more racy VM places to avoid depending on the expected
>> compiler behavior to achieve kernel runtime correctness.
>>
>> It mostly guarantees gcc to do atomic updates at 64bit granularity
>> (practically not needed) and it also prevents gcc to emit code that
>> risks getting confused if the memory unexpectedly changes under it
>> (unlikely to ever be needed).
>>
>> The list of vm_start/end/pgoff to update isn't complete, I covered the
>> most obvious places, but before wasting too much time at doing a full
>> audit I thought it was safer to post it and get some comment. More
>> updates can be posted incrementally anyway.
>
> The intention is described well to my eyes.
>
> Do I understand correctly, that it's attempt to get away with modifying
> vma's fields under down_read(mmap_sem)?
If that's the intention, then IMHO it's not that well described. It
talks about "racy VM places" but e.g. the __mm_populate() changes are
for code protected by down_read(). So what's going on here?
> I'm not fan of this.
>
> It can help with producing stable value for the one field, but it doesn't
> help if more than one thing changed under you. Like if both vm_start and
> vm_end modifed under you, it can lead to inconsistency. Like vm_end <
> vm_start.
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-03-01 13:04 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-03-01 3:55 Andrea Arcangeli
2019-03-01 3:55 ` [PATCH 1/2] coredump: use READ_ONCE to read mm->flags Andrea Arcangeli
2019-03-01 3:55 ` [PATCH 2/2] mm: use READ/WRITE_ONCE to access anonymous vmas vm_start/vm_end/vm_pgoff Andrea Arcangeli
2019-03-01 9:37 ` [PATCH 0/2] RFC: READ/WRITE_ONCE vma/mm cleanups Kirill A. Shutemov
2019-03-01 13:04 ` Vlastimil Babka [this message]
2019-03-01 16:54 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2019-03-01 18:49 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2019-03-04 10:12 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2019-03-05 13:00 ` Michal Hocko
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