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From: "Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>
To: Jacob Pan <jacob.jun.pan@linux.intel.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 01/40] iommu: Introduce Shared Virtual Addressing API
Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2018 09:29:13 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3e3a6797-a233-911b-3a7d-d9b549160960@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180907142504.5034351e@jacob-builder>

Am 07.09.2018 um 23:25 schrieb Jacob Pan:
> On Fri, 7 Sep 2018 20:02:54 +0200
> Christian KA?nig <christian.koenig@amd.com> wrote:
>> [SNIP]
>>> iommu-sva expects everywhere that the device has an iommu_domain,
>>> it's the first thing we check on entry. Bypassing all of this would
>>> call idr_alloc() directly, and wouldn't have any code in common
>>> with the current iommu-sva. So it seems like you need a layer on
>>> top of iommu-sva calling idr_alloc() when an IOMMU isn't present,
>>> but I don't think it should be in drivers/iommu/
>> In this case I question if the PASID handling should be under
>> drivers/iommu at all.
>>
>> See I can have a mix of VM context which are bound to processes (some
>> few) and VM contexts which are standalone and doesn't care for a
>> process address space. But for each VM context I need a distinct
>> PASID for the hardware to work.
>>
>> I can live if we say if IOMMU is completely disabled we use a simple
>> ida to allocate them, but when IOMMU is enabled I certainly need a
>> way to reserve a PASID without an associated process.
>>
> VT-d would also have such requirement. There is a virtual command
> register for allocate and free PASID for VM use. When that PASID
> allocation request gets propagated to the host IOMMU driver, we need to
> allocate PASID w/o mm.
>
> If the PASID allocation is done via VFIO, can we have FD to track PASID
> life cycle instead of mm_exit()? i.e. all FDs get closed before
> mm_exit, I assume?

Yes, exactly. I just need a PASID which is never used by the OS for a 
process and we can easily give that back when the last FD reference is 
closed.

>>>> 3. Even after destruction of a process address space we need some
>>>> grace period before a PASID is reused because it can be that the
>>>> specific PASID is still in some hardware queues etc...
>>>>    A A A  A A A  At bare minimum all device drivers using process binding
>>>> need to explicitly note to the core when they are done with a
>>>> PASID.
>>> Right, much of the horribleness in iommu-sva deals with this:
>>>
>>> The process dies, iommu-sva is notified and calls the mm_exit()
>>> function passed by the device driver to iommu_sva_device_init(). In
>>> mm_exit() the device driver needs to clear any reference to the
>>> PASID in hardware and in its own structures. When the device driver
>>> returns from mm_exit(), it effectively tells the core that it has
>>> finished using the PASID, and iommu-sva can reuse the PASID for
>>> another process. mm_exit() is allowed to block, so the device
>>> driver has time to clean up and flush the queues.
>>>
>>> If the device driver finishes using the PASID before the process
>>> exits, it just calls unbind().
>> Exactly that's what Michal Hocko is probably going to not like at all.
>>
>> Can we have a different approach where each driver is informed by the
>> mm_exit(), but needs to explicitly call unbind() before a PASID is
>> reused?
>>
>> During that teardown transition it would be ideal if that PASID only
>> points to a dummy root page directory with only invalid entries.
>>
> I guess this can be vendor specific, In VT-d I plan to mark PASID
> entry not present and disable fault reporting while draining remaining
> activities.

Sounds good to me.

Point is at least in the case where the process was killed by the OOM 
killer we should not block in mm_exit().

Instead operations issued by the process to a device driver which uses 
SVA needs to be terminated as soon as possible to make sure that the OOM 
killer can advance.

Thanks,
Christian.

  reply	other threads:[~2018-09-08  7:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 125+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-05-11 19:06 [PATCH v2 00/40] Shared Virtual Addressing for the IOMMU Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 01/40] iommu: Introduce Shared Virtual Addressing API Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-16 20:41   ` Jacob Pan
2018-05-17 10:02     ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-17 17:00       ` Jacob Pan
2018-09-05 11:29   ` Auger Eric
2018-09-06 11:09     ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-09-06 11:12       ` Christian König
2018-09-06 12:45         ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-09-07  8:55           ` Christian König
2018-09-07 15:45             ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-09-07 18:02               ` Christian König
2018-09-07 21:25                 ` Jacob Pan
2018-09-08  7:29                   ` Christian König [this message]
2018-09-12 12:40                     ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-09-12 12:56                       ` Christian König
2018-09-13  7:15                   ` Tian, Kevin
2018-09-13  7:26             ` Tian, Kevin
2018-05-11 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 02/40] iommu/sva: Bind process address spaces to devices Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-17 13:10   ` Jonathan Cameron
2018-05-21 14:43     ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-09-05 11:29   ` Auger Eric
2018-09-06 11:09     ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 03/40] iommu/sva: Manage process address spaces Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-16 23:31   ` Jacob Pan
2018-05-17 10:02     ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-22 16:43       ` Jacob Pan
2018-05-24 11:44         ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-24 11:50           ` Ilias Apalodimas
2018-05-24 15:04             ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-25  6:33               ` Ilias Apalodimas
2018-05-25  8:39                 ` Jonathan Cameron
     [not found]                   ` <20180525093959.000040a7-hv44wF8Li93QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2018-05-26  2:24                     ` Kenneth Lee
2018-05-26  2:24                   ` Kenneth Lee
2018-05-26  2:24                   ` Kenneth Lee
     [not found]                   ` <20180526022445.GA6069@kllp05>
2018-06-11 16:10                     ` Kenneth Lee
2018-06-11 16:10                     ` Kenneth Lee
2018-06-11 16:10                     ` Kenneth Lee
2018-06-11 16:32                   ` Kenneth Lee
2018-05-17 14:25   ` Jonathan Cameron
2018-05-21 14:44     ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-09-05 12:14   ` Auger Eric
2018-09-05 18:18     ` Jacob Pan
2018-09-06 17:40       ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-09-06 11:10     ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 04/40] iommu/sva: Add a mm_exit callback for device drivers Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-09-05 13:23   ` Auger Eric
2018-09-06 11:10     ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 05/40] iommu/sva: Track mm changes with an MMU notifier Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-17 14:25   ` Jonathan Cameron
2018-05-21 14:44     ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 06/40] iommu/sva: Search mm by PASID Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 07/40] iommu: Add a page fault handler Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-17 15:25   ` Jonathan Cameron
2018-05-21 14:48     ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-18 18:04   ` Jacob Pan
2018-05-21 14:49     ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-22 23:35       ` Jacob Pan
2018-05-24 11:44         ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-26  0:35           ` Jacob Pan
2018-05-29 10:00             ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 08/40] iommu/iopf: Handle mm faults Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 09/40] iommu/sva: Register page fault handler Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 10/40] mm: export symbol mm_access Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 11/40] mm: export symbol find_get_task_by_vpid Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 12/40] mm: export symbol mmput_async Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 13/40] vfio: Add support for Shared Virtual Addressing Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-17 15:58   ` Jonathan Cameron
2018-05-21 14:51     ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-23  9:38   ` Xu Zaibo
2018-05-24 11:44     ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-24 12:35       ` Xu Zaibo
2018-05-24 15:04         ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-25  2:39           ` Xu Zaibo
2018-05-25  9:47             ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-26  3:53               ` Xu Zaibo
2018-05-29 11:55                 ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-29 12:24                   ` Xu Zaibo
2018-08-27  8:06   ` Xu Zaibo
2018-08-31 13:34     ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-09-01  2:23       ` Xu Zaibo
2018-09-03 10:34         ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-09-04  2:12           ` Xu Zaibo
2018-09-04 10:57             ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-09-05  3:15               ` Xu Zaibo
2018-09-05 11:02                 ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-09-06  7:26                   ` Xu Zaibo
2018-05-11 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 14/40] dt-bindings: document stall and PASID properties for IOMMU masters Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 15/40] iommu/of: Add stall and pasid properties to iommu_fwspec Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 16/40] arm64: mm: Pin down ASIDs for sharing mm with devices Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-15 14:16   ` Catalin Marinas
2018-05-17 10:01     ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 17/40] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Link domains and devices Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-17 16:07   ` Jonathan Cameron
2018-05-21 14:49     ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-09-10 15:16   ` Auger Eric
2018-05-11 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 18/40] iommu/io-pgtable-arm: Factor out ARM LPAE register defines Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 19/40] iommu: Add generic PASID table library Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 20/40] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Move context descriptor code Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 21/40] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Add support for Substream IDs Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-31 11:01   ` Bharat Kumar Gogada
2018-06-01 10:46     ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 22/40] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Add second level of context descriptor table Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 23/40] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Share process page tables Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 24/40] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Seize private ASID Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 25/40] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Add support for VHE Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 26/40] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Enable broadcast TLB maintenance Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 27/40] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Add SVA feature checking Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 28/40] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Implement mm operations Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 29/40] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Add support for Hardware Translation Table Update Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 30/40] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Register I/O Page Fault queue Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 31/40] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Improve add_device error handling Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 32/40] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Maintain a SID->device structure Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 33/40] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Add stall support for platform devices Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 34/40] ACPI/IORT: Check ATS capability in root complex nodes Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 35/40] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Add support for PCI ATS Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-19 17:25   ` Sinan Kaya
2018-05-21 14:52     ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 36/40] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Hook up ATC invalidation to mm ops Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 37/40] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Disable tagged pointers Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 38/40] PCI: Make "PRG Response PASID Required" handling common Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 39/40] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Add support for PRI Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-25 14:08   ` Bharat Kumar Gogada
2018-05-29 10:27     ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-05-11 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 40/40] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Add support for PCI PASID Jean-Philippe Brucker

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