From: Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>
To: Omar Sandoval <osandov@osandov.com>
Cc: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
Israel Batista <linux@israelbatista.dev.br>,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
linux-debuggers@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: Convert memory block states (MEM_*) macros to enum
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2025 19:46:43 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3d3bfa52-3e13-4d23-8ef7-6cb8b1ab7d79@lucifer.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aP-2x314BKks2_N9@telecaster>
On Mon, Oct 27, 2025 at 11:15:35AM -0700, Omar Sandoval wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 27, 2025 at 10:29:15AM +0100, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> > On 26.10.25 17:22, Israel Batista wrote:
> > > The MEM_* constants indicating the state of the memory block are
> > > currently defined as macros, meaning their definitions will be omitted
> > > from the debuginfo on most kernel builds. This makes it harder for
> > > debuggers to correctly map the block state at runtime, which can be
> > > quite useful when analysing errors related to memory hot plugging and
> > > unplugging with tools such as drgn and eBPF.
> > >
> > > Converting the constants to an enum will ensure the correct information
> > > is emitted by the compiler and available for the debugger, without needing
> > > to hard-code them into the debugger and track their changes.
> > >
> > > Signed-off-by: Israel Batista <linux@israelbatista.dev.br>
> > > ---
> > > include/linux/memory.h | 16 +++++++++-------
> > > 1 file changed, 9 insertions(+), 7 deletions(-)
> > >
> > > diff --git a/include/linux/memory.h b/include/linux/memory.h
> > > index ba1515160894..8feba3bfcd18 100644
> > > --- a/include/linux/memory.h
> > > +++ b/include/linux/memory.h
> > > @@ -89,13 +89,15 @@ int arch_get_memory_phys_device(unsigned long start_pfn);
> > > unsigned long memory_block_size_bytes(void);
> > > int set_memory_block_size_order(unsigned int order);
> > > -/* These states are exposed to userspace as text strings in sysfs */
> > > -#define MEM_ONLINE (1<<0) /* exposed to userspace */
> > > -#define MEM_GOING_OFFLINE (1<<1) /* exposed to userspace */
> > > -#define MEM_OFFLINE (1<<2) /* exposed to userspace */
> > > -#define MEM_GOING_ONLINE (1<<3)
> > > -#define MEM_CANCEL_ONLINE (1<<4)
> > > -#define MEM_CANCEL_OFFLINE (1<<5)
> > > +enum mem_states {
Why are we naming a type we never use...
> > > + /* These states are exposed to userspace as text strings in sysfs */
> > > + MEM_ONLINE = (1<<0), /* exposed to userspace */
> > > + MEM_GOING_OFFLINE = (1<<1), /* exposed to userspace */
> > > + MEM_OFFLINE = (1<<2), /* exposed to userspace */
> > > + MEM_GOING_ONLINE = (1<<3),
> > > + MEM_CANCEL_ONLINE = (1<<4),
> > > + MEM_CANCEL_OFFLINE = (1<<5),
> > > +};
If it has to be named, can we just expose the bits as an enum and the values as
BIT(...)?
> > > struct memory_notify {
> > > unsigned long start_pfn;
> >
> > CCing Lorenzo, we recently had a discussion about such conversions.
>
> Yeah, I've been asking people to send out these conversions as we
> encounter them in drgn, but ONLY when the absence of a value in the
> kernel debugging symbols causes actual problems for drgn. I want it to
> be clear that we're not spamming these just to cause churn. This is an
> unfortunate corner case of debug info that leaves us with no other
> option.
Right. That really sucks, but I like drgn so if reasonable I do want us to
make life easier there... :)
>
> > The states are mutually exclusive (so no flags), so I wonder if we can just
> > drop the (1<< X) setting completely.
>
> FWIW, putting my C standard committee hat on, there is nothing wrong
> with combining flags in an enum. C11 is silent on the matter, but C23
> made this explicit. Quoting 6.7.3.3, paragraph 16: "After possible
> lvalue conversion a value of the enumerated type behaves the same as the
> value with the underlying type, in particular with all aspects of
> promotion, conversion, and arithmetic." Lorenzo may have been thinking
> of the stricter rules in C++.
I don't really understand the argument being made there.
That's just saying the enum behaves as if it's the underlying type? I'm not
arguing otherwise.
Consider:
enum some_name {
X,
Y
};
void some_func(enum some_name val)
{
switch (val) {
case X:
...
case Y:
...
}
// compiler doesn't warn about missing cases.
}
This is already giving some sense as to the intuition that enums specify
all the values as declared specific enumeration values.
But intuitively, with the enum as a _named_ type, it's _weird_ for there to
be possible values for it that are not listed.
The problem here for me is the type being _named_.
If it's unnamed, then it doesn't really matter, it's just another way of
declaring the values.
If drgn needs it named, then just name bit values and use BIT(...).
>
> Of course, semantically, it makes more sense to use distinct values in
> cases like this where the values are not actually flags.
enum's are kinda defined by being distinct values...
>
> > IIRC, these values are not exposed to
> > user space, only the corresponding names are, see state_show().
> >
> >
> > Won't the compiler now complain that e.g., kcore_callback() does snot handle
> > all cases? (no default statement)
>
> Only if the controlling expression of the switch statement actually has
> the enum type. All existing code uses unsigned long, so the compiler
> doesn't care.
So why are we naming the type... does drgn require it?
Thanks, Lorenzo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-10-27 19:47 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-10-26 16:22 Israel Batista
2025-10-27 9:29 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-27 18:15 ` Omar Sandoval
2025-10-27 19:16 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-27 19:46 ` Lorenzo Stoakes [this message]
2025-10-27 23:34 ` Omar Sandoval
2025-10-28 16:06 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-28 16:33 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-10-28 17:40 ` Omar Sandoval
2025-10-27 23:53 ` Israel Batista
2025-10-28 16:34 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-10-28 19:06 ` Israel Batista
2025-10-28 19:13 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-10-27 18:18 ` Omar Sandoval
2025-10-27 19:17 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-27 23:41 ` Israel Batista
2025-10-28 6:51 ` Omar Sandoval
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