From: John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>
To: Logan Gunthorpe <logang@deltatee.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 01/16] PCI/P2PDMA: Pass gfp_mask flags to upstream_bridge_distance_warn()
Date: Mon, 3 May 2021 11:17:31 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3bced3a4-b826-46ab-3d98-d2dc6871bfe1@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8ea5b5b3-e10f-121a-bd2a-07db83c6da01@deltatee.com>
On 5/3/21 8:57 AM, Logan Gunthorpe wrote:
>
>
> On 2021-05-01 9:58 p.m., John Hubbard wrote:
>> Another odd thing: this used to check for memory failure and just give
>> up, and now it doesn't. Yes, I realize that it all still works at the
>> moment, but this is quirky and we shouldn't stop here.
>>
>> Instead, a cleaner approach would be to push the memory allocation
>> slightly higher up the call stack, out to the
>> pci_p2pdma_distance_many(). So pci_p2pdma_distance_many() should make
>> the kmalloc() call, and fail out if it can't get a page for the seq_buf
>> buffer. Then you don't have to do all this odd stuff.
>
> I don't really agree with this assessment. If kmalloc fails to
> initialize the seq_buf() (which should be very rare), the only thing
> that is lost is the one warning print that tells the user the command
> line parameter needed disable the ACS. Everything else works fine,
> nothing else can fail. I don't see the need to add extra complexity just
> so the code errors out in no-mem instead of just skipping the one,
> slightly more informative, warning line.
That's the thing: memory failure should be exceedingly rare for this.
Therefore, just fail out entirely (which I don't expect we'll likely
ever see), instead of doing all this weird stuff to try to continue
on if you cannot allocate a single page. If you are in that case, the
system is not in a state that is going to run your dma p2p setup well
anyway.
I think it's *less* complexity to allocate up front, fail early if
allocation fails, and then not have to deal with these really odd
quirks at the lower levels.
>
> Also, keep in mind the result of all these functions are cached so it
> only ever happens once. So for this to matter, the user would have to do
> their first transaction between two devices exactly at the time memory
> allocations would fail.
>
>
>> Furthermore, the call sites can then decide for themselves which GFP
>> flags, GFP_ATOMIC or GFP_KERNEL or whatever they want for kmalloc().
>>
>> A related thing: this whole exercise would go better if there were a
>> preparatory patch or two that changed the return codes in this file to
>> something less crazy. There are too many functions that can fail, but
>> are treated as if they sort-of-mostly-would-never-fail, in the hopes of
>> using the return value directly for counting and such. This is badly
>> mistaken, and it leads developers to try to avoid returning -ENOMEM
>> (which is what we need here).
>
> Hmm? Which functions can fail? and how?
>
Let's defer that to the other patches, I was sort of looking ahead to
those, sorry.
thanks,
--
John Hubbard
NVIDIA
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-05-03 18:17 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 97+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-04-08 17:01 [PATCH 00/16] Add new DMA mapping operation for P2PDMA Logan Gunthorpe
2021-04-08 17:01 ` [PATCH 01/16] PCI/P2PDMA: Pass gfp_mask flags to upstream_bridge_distance_warn() Logan Gunthorpe
2021-05-02 3:58 ` John Hubbard
2021-05-03 15:57 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-05-03 18:17 ` John Hubbard [this message]
2021-05-03 18:20 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-05-03 18:23 ` John Hubbard
2021-05-03 18:24 ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-05-11 16:05 ` Don Dutile
2021-05-11 16:12 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-05-11 16:23 ` Don Dutile
2021-04-08 17:01 ` [PATCH 02/16] PCI/P2PDMA: Avoid pci_get_slot() which sleeps Logan Gunthorpe
2021-05-02 5:35 ` John Hubbard
2021-05-03 16:08 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-05-03 18:20 ` John Hubbard
2021-05-03 18:25 ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-05-11 16:05 ` Don Dutile
2021-05-11 16:16 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-05-11 16:05 ` Don Dutile
2021-05-11 16:14 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-04-08 17:01 ` [PATCH 03/16] PCI/P2PDMA: Attempt to set map_type if it has not been set Logan Gunthorpe
2021-05-02 19:58 ` John Hubbard
2021-05-03 16:17 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-05-03 18:22 ` John Hubbard
2021-05-03 18:35 ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-05-03 18:46 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-05-11 16:05 ` Don Dutile
2021-04-08 17:01 ` [PATCH 04/16] PCI/P2PDMA: Refactor pci_p2pdma_map_type() to take pagmap and device Logan Gunthorpe
2021-05-02 20:41 ` John Hubbard
2021-05-03 16:30 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-05-03 18:31 ` John Hubbard
2021-05-03 18:56 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-05-03 21:54 ` John Hubbard
2021-05-03 22:57 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-05-03 23:40 ` John Hubbard
2021-04-08 17:01 ` [PATCH 06/16] lib/scatterlist: Add flag for indicating P2PDMA segments in an SGL Logan Gunthorpe
2021-05-02 22:34 ` John Hubbard
2021-04-08 17:01 ` [PATCH 07/16] PCI/P2PDMA: Make pci_p2pdma_map_type() non-static Logan Gunthorpe
2021-05-02 22:44 ` John Hubbard
2021-05-03 16:39 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-05-11 16:06 ` Don Dutile
2021-05-11 16:17 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-04-08 17:01 ` [PATCH 08/16] PCI/P2PDMA: Introduce helpers for dma_map_sg implementations Logan Gunthorpe
2021-05-02 22:52 ` John Hubbard
2021-05-03 0:50 ` John Hubbard
2021-05-03 17:15 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-04-08 17:01 ` [PATCH 09/16] dma-direct: Support PCI P2PDMA pages in dma-direct map_sg Logan Gunthorpe
2021-04-27 19:33 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-04-27 19:40 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-04-27 22:56 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-05-02 23:28 ` John Hubbard
2021-05-02 23:32 ` John Hubbard
2021-05-03 17:06 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-05-03 16:55 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-05-04 0:12 ` John Hubbard
2021-05-03 17:04 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-05-04 0:01 ` John Hubbard
2021-04-08 17:01 ` [PATCH 10/16] dma-mapping: Add flags to dma_map_ops to indicate PCI P2PDMA support Logan Gunthorpe
2021-05-03 0:32 ` John Hubbard
2021-05-03 17:09 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-05-11 16:06 ` Don Dutile
2021-05-11 16:19 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-04-08 17:01 ` [PATCH 12/16] nvme-pci: Check DMA ops when indicating support for PCI P2PDMA Logan Gunthorpe
2021-05-03 1:29 ` John Hubbard
2021-05-03 17:17 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-05-04 0:17 ` John Hubbard
2021-04-08 17:01 ` [PATCH 13/16] nvme-pci: Convert to using dma_map_sg_p2pdma for p2pdma pages Logan Gunthorpe
2021-05-03 1:34 ` John Hubbard
2021-05-03 17:19 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-05-04 0:26 ` John Hubbard
2021-04-08 17:01 ` [PATCH 14/16] nvme-rdma: Ensure dma support when using p2pdma Logan Gunthorpe
2021-04-27 19:47 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-04-27 22:59 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-05-03 1:37 ` John Hubbard
2021-04-08 17:01 ` [PATCH 15/16] RDMA/rw: use dma_map_sg_p2pdma() Logan Gunthorpe
2021-04-08 17:01 ` [PATCH 16/16] PCI/P2PDMA: Remove pci_p2pdma_[un]map_sg() Logan Gunthorpe
2021-04-27 19:28 ` [PATCH 00/16] Add new DMA mapping operation for P2PDMA Jason Gunthorpe
2021-04-27 20:21 ` John Hubbard
2021-04-27 20:48 ` Dan Williams
2021-05-02 1:22 ` John Hubbard
2021-05-11 16:05 ` Don Dutile
[not found] ` <20210408170123.8788-6-logang@deltatee.com>
2021-04-27 19:22 ` [PATCH 05/16] dma-mapping: Introduce dma_map_sg_p2pdma() Jason Gunthorpe
2021-04-27 22:49 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-04-27 19:31 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-04-27 22:55 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-04-27 23:01 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-05-03 18:28 ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-05-03 18:31 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-05-02 21:23 ` John Hubbard
2021-05-03 16:38 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-05-11 16:05 ` Don Dutile
[not found] ` <20210408170123.8788-12-logang@deltatee.com>
2021-04-27 19:43 ` [PATCH 11/16] iommu/dma: Support PCI P2PDMA pages in dma-iommu map_sg Jason Gunthorpe
2021-04-27 22:59 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-05-03 1:14 ` John Hubbard
2021-05-06 23:59 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-05-11 16:06 ` Don Dutile
2021-05-11 16:35 ` Logan Gunthorpe
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